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Even Yandex is getting stupid. The word is not underlined to me, although some quite correct underlines.
You're getting stupid, we're getting stupid, everything in the world is getting stupid. Complete moronism…
My brother likes to say that he is older than anyone for several years, and therefore smarter by the same amount. No doubt it knows what a delta function is. However, I am convinced that I discovered it before Dirac. Sometimes I'm tempted to ask him again to tell me about it, to record the story on a tape recorder (he likes to record all sorts of conversations) and let him listen to it on occasion.
But my idiocy does not allow me to find the right button on my iPhone in advance…
The question was put incorrectly 🙂
First, even in ancient times, the older generation had such thoughts. This is due to the fact that having gained experience and knowledge, people extrapolate it to their youth and cannot adequately assess themselves in the past.
Secondly, judging by the experience of work, for a couple of decades there has been a decline in erudition (not to be confused with thinking), which is due to the development of the Internet. If earlier there was a need to remember the acquired knowledge, now there is no such need – you can always find it on the Internet.
The new generation is not worse or better, it's just different.
We get stupid or smarter, degrade or progress… What difference does it make if all these are subjective definitions-creations of the mind that pass from hand to hand? Each new generation lives in a newer, dynamically changing information space than the older generation. This is an eternal problem of fathers and children – people of mature age always and at all times, relying on their gray hair and notorious life experience, strive to teach something to young people and often condemn and reproach what they themselves simply cannot or do not want to understand, comprehend and accept. Damned fools! That's why I hate grumpy old-timers who have long since fallen out of life and who have only one thing to do-to die. But after all, there are adequate, interesting and young-hearted elderly people, to whom, willy-nilly, you will listen. What's wrong with them? But they just kept up with the times all their lives, didn't fall out of trends. This is the only correct decision in life – to follow the dynamically changing world around you, people's interests, and scientific discoveries… Without all this, a person will turn into a disgusting old man-grumpy, from whom others will expect one thing – ” when are you going to die?”.
no, on the contrary, it's smarter. The older generation feels this and tries to belittle (assert themselves (according to the law of hierarchy)) the younger ones. There are, of course, people from the older generation who are very wise and knowledgeable, but they will never say that the younger generation is dumber. If in general people take, then here as genetics gave and education. Someone is stupid, and someone is very smart, and this does not depend on age.
Dumber, and don't go to your grandmother, as our president says. If when interviewing schoolchildren on Red Square, Suvorov took Berlin, and drove French Beetles near Borodino, then what else can we talk about? You will see how and what our “flowers of life” write in social networks and forums. I won't say anything about grammar at all. 2/3 of the words are Anglicisms. Even in my memory, this was not the case. They can't articulate their thoughts. They can't connect two words in a conversation. In short, dumber!
I'll go a little bit into “tu spep”, but still.
I once wondered why in the 18th century everyone wrote poetry, played the piano, knew at least 2 or 3 languages and, of course, read books, but now it is very difficult to find a person with at least one of them, and it is not possible to find a complete set at all.
I thought about it, thought about it, and realized: the menshestvo has always been smart. This is the golden rule. There are always fewer smart people.
And now to the question: no, we are not stupid, just changed tastes and entertainment, and now the older generation does not understand our interests, and all incomprehensible people tend to consider stupid.
In any generation, the percentage of stupid, “single-celled” people who go with the flow and the percentage of developing people remain. Statistics show that approximately 5% of the population in any society develops, and this can also be tracked in mini-groups ( school, institute, work). The majority will always degrade. This does not mean that all the rednecks around are ill-mannered, but the scope of their perception is limited. Age has nothing to do with it at all. In its own way, both the older generation is stupid, and the younger one does not lag behind it, it just manifests itself in different ways.
A controversial issue. On the one hand, the goal of a large proportion of today's youth is to earn as much money as possible. At the same time, the number of narrow-profile specialists is growing, because all “unnecessary” information is eliminated. Information that, in our opinion, does not contribute to the expansion of the wallet. While the education of the USSR was considered the best in the world. It turns out that the people of that time should have a broader outlook. However, to be honest, I do not observe this in practice. Take my parents, for example. Of course, many things have already been forgotten, how many years ago they were unlearned, but at least the basics should have been preserved in memory.
You can not put the brand of stupidity on all modern youth. Morons have always been, are, and will always be, just like decent and educated people.
A very strange question, frankly. By some criteria, we are “behind” the older ones, hence the phrases like “I was already working/married/had a child at your age”, but by some we are far ahead. De Facto, each new generation, despite the “lack of spirituality and degradation” that everyone is very willing to shout about, is smarter than their parents. Children who are 3-4 years old can use the phone, computer and have an account in several social networks. What could you do when you were 4?
Personally, I think that all this bravado in the spirit of” here at my age and the grass was greener, and the sun shone better, and I actually knew how, and this, and you only sit on your ass at your computer ” is greatly exaggerated. There have always been both smart and stupid, and the concentration, according to statistics, has not exactly changed for the worse.
The new generation starts its journey from the point where the old one left off – I don't remember where I heard this phrase and I can't remember the authorship.
I've heard your question live from a drunkard with an indignant face. I just want to troll him I told him <.. and suddenly instead of fuel in the tank can be filled?>>>. It was clear that he thought about something and fell silent. (By the way, later I found out that he hanged himself).
Even if every old generation is smarter than the new one, then would we have cars, computers, the Internet, the ISS, airplanes, and hadron colliders ?… Of course not! And tomorrow, cars will be more perfect, the Internet will be faster (I remembered that 15 years ago I had a dial-up), smartphones will be more functional.
I must bitterly admit to myself that I am not as gifted as the late Alan Turing, Richard Feynman, Alexander Bell, Socrates, Hannibal, Thomas Edison, Mahatma Gandhi, Albert Einstein, Archimedes, Newton… In general, we are the same generation as 100 generations ago, just a lot more information passes through us, someone absorbs it, someone filters it out. Things that once would have been called utopia are now reality. Without a doubt, humanity is getting smarter by making small leaps in the development of technology 🙂
Of course, the younger ones are dumber, in our opinion, according to our standards and norms of education.
Certainly dumber than the older ones. Even because of their age: the reaction is not the same and the memory fails, the knees do not bend, constantly grumble and…
Which of them is more right-wing?
Oh-oh-oh! And the younger generation has ever paid attention to the grumbling of the older one!
As for the mind, upbringing and lack of it, read here. And everything will become clear to you. In our time, everything is changing so fast that we no longer understand where the new generation is, because every five years the characteristics of life change…
The problem is not intelligence, but education. Tins are devoid of a worldview, life for them is a mosaic of facts and opinions. Their humanitarian training is extremely weak. This is not stupidity. But this is debilitation. In which young people can not be blamed.
Well, people are different. It's infuriating when a person is judged by their age. And about the generation of morons, I will say this: but weren't they morons and much more stupid. I heard a lot of stories from my grandfather and his friends about how they searched for and detonated shells, put all sorts of shit on the railway, went to such an ass that it's even scary to imagine and did other dangerous things!
Resenting the stupidity and stupidity of young people is a good tradition of the older generation at any time — from Ancient Greece to the 21st century. People who yesterday were themselves these young people, today are already surprised by the “stupefaction of the new generation”. So part of the question is related to purely psychological errors of perception. In hindsight, it seems that you were smarter at the age of 17, and the current teenager is incapable of anything. Even if later this teenager will grow up to be a Nobel Laureate.
But still, there are some facts that indicate, if not the “moronism” of the modern generation, then a massive deterioration in cognitive functions. Pay attention to the content that is available online — short videos and notes, extracts and selections, retellings of books for 10 minutes of reading are popular. It is increasingly difficult for a modern user to grasp the meaning in the text, to hold their attention, and to “wade” through poorly formatted material (“sheet”). Books and articles are richly illustrated, because otherwise the reader simply loses interest. Holding and concentrating your attention is becoming increasingly difficult. How many times have you noticed that you click from one video to another, that after 1-2 minutes you have already lost the essence of what is being told to you?
Of course, content producers, understanding these features, try to simplify it as much as possible. And this creates a vicious circle — people with already reduced brain functions receive information in a simpler form, are deprived of the opportunity to strain and train the brain. The result is the same clip thinking.
The well-known Russian psychotherapist Andrey Vladimirovich Kurpatov, for example, actively uses the term “digital pseudo-moronism”. He claims that a person who is actively immersed in the modern digital environment gradually acquires the features of a person with moronism, without having any congenital abnormalities.
The reason for the problem is a sharply increased flow of incoming information. Our brains haven't evolved enough to handle all of this. But it can be trained.
Here are some recommendations to help you protect yourself from pseudo-idiocy::
Pull yourself out of the endless cycle of content consumption. Get information in a selective and measured way, and try to work with physical media, rather than electronic versions that are full of distractions.
Don't go down the path of simplifying information — read complex books with a large number of intelligent objects.
Every day, spend 15-20 minutes training the higher mental functions of the brain: attention, thinking, and memory. You can do this with the help of smart Wikium simulators, which are based on the research of neuropsychologists. Wikium allows you to develop cognitive functions and their properties in a playful way. After registration, you will have access to an input test that will show you what state they are in now. Next, an individual training program is formed, which is built on the principle of gradual complexity. It won't be too easy and boring, but it won't be too difficult and tedious at the same time.
Now everywhere they are forcing this topic and forcing it by the way, the schoolchildren themselves(who else should do this). And I bet the same students who are really stupid)
�I'm 30, and from my communication I can tell that those who are now 15-25 may even be ahead in development and erudition, for example, my peers, and even more so those who are now for example 50+. I think this is partly due to technological progress, partly to the evolution of our society
The main points have already been made.
But I have another important one in my piggy bank . And how to compare it at all?I mean, you live in your own era and you don't understand the state of minds.And who is clear about it?In my humble opinion, the derivation of the general coefficient of stupidity, if not from the evil one, can take place sooo approximately.
I,for one, will never do this objectively.Why?If I live in the same city and calculate the hospital average for people's well-being,am I objective?And even if I move to another city, if I travel around Russia?If I have a single social circle,however wildly broad, when I talk about the state of minds now or now and then, I will simply use people's favorite mental trap-false extrapolation.What you see around you and with whom you communicate often speaks more specifically about your life.
Therefore, individuals are unlikely to approach an objective assessment.Moreover, we have only touched upon objective factors.A subjective view of the ability to think-this is generally not lost for our research.
Stupid,as well as smart, people exist in any generation.They are not linked to an era, country, or anything else.There were no stupid eras.There were times when, for various reasons, fools were in power,when advanced thoughts were suppressed. I do not think that the balance of reasonable in the 5th-9th centuries, which is considered to be the domination of barbarian, somewhat backward tribes in Europe, and in the 6th-3rd centuries BC were very different.We simply associate the first epoch with the barbarians, and the second with the classical epoch of the Ancient world:philosophy, architecture and all prichendaly.Again, a question of sources and views.
I have a very wide social circle:from drug addicts and rednecks to intelligent professors(this, by the way, does not determine who is a moron and who is not).But I've learned long ago that the balance of talent and dullness is stable across all generations and varies only slightly.You just need to be more firm and not let fools assert that he is right or that he is smart.If such a fool, by virtue of power or popularity, determines the era,the least of our evils is that our elders will call our generation a failure.
Okay, I'll briefly tell you the essence of the video that I attach below. If we take it before the 18th and 19th centuries, then each subsequent generation was smarter than their ancestors due to natural selection (the adapted one survived). This meant a huge infant mortality rate, a low life expectancy (we recall the phrase: “An old man of 40 years entered”), but still those who lived to puberty were at least not stupid.
With the development of such a thing as “medicine”, we allow the absolute majority to live to 20 years and multiply, and given the fact that % of idiots (I'm not talking about the clinical term) who were born 200 years ago and now have not changed, then given that they survive in modern times, yes-they become more and more every year.�
More detailed:
(Konstantin Kadavr. Check out his cycle “obvious things”. Can explain something)
http://www.youtube.com/embed/i0m9K4loOr8?wmode=opaque
It's not about stupidity, it's about the availability of information, in my opinion, information is now so accessible that there is simply no need to search for something, learn something new and generally make some effort. To be honest, I can't talk about Russian youth, because I just don't interact with them, I judge by my Italian students, who are between 20 and 25. And I can say that they are not stupid, but they are “dark”, they know little about the world, even about their own culture and what is happening in their own country. They are a sort of tabula rasa, living in a world of their own and knowing only what concerns them directly. Everything else is superfluous. Sometimes you just want to shout: DO YOU LIVE IN A CAVE?! But you look into their innocent eyes and realize that it's not their fault, it's just that times are changing and people are changing too, and it's not bad or good – just a fact.
people tend to get a little blunt with age. some people do not get a little blunt, some keep a sharp mind until a very old age (rarely). By myself, I see that I started to slow down after 35, and my 20-25-year-old colleagues think faster. so age is not a sign of intelligence. age is a sign of old age))
Yes.�
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I believe that this is a question of a more philosophical nature, for this reason I will give a few sayings. They relate to young people in general, as such, but perfectly correlate with the essence of the issue.
Our young people love luxury, they are ill-bred, they scoff at their superiors and do not respect the elderly in the least. Our children today have become tyrants; they do not get up when an elderly person enters the room, they contradict their parents. Simply put, they are very bad.
I have lost all hope for the future of our country if today's young people take over the reins of government tomorrow, because these young people are unbearable, unrestrained, simply terrible.
Our world has reached a critical stage. Children no longer listen to their parents. Apparently, the end of the world is not very far away
These young people are corrupt to the core. Young people are malicious and negligent. They will never be like the young people of yore. The younger generation of today will not be able to preserve our culture.
The first sentence is borrowed from Socrates (470-399 BC); the second from Hesiod (c. 720 BC); the third sentence belongs to the Egyptian priest Ipuver, who lived in 1700 BC; the fourth was discovered quite recently on an earthen pot found among the ruins of Babylon. The age of this pot is over 3000 years.
Apparently, I will start teaching in the fall, and then we will check out the current generation that has come to universities for humanitarian education.�
As for the generation as a whole, I'm an old fart to begin with. I'm 39. This must be stipulated, because now I will be boring! So, the younger generation can not be called stupid. However, there is one drawback. With total access to information, guys and girls are mostly lazy. Young people should not be asked, as with us before, they say, whether the lessons have been learned. But you need to follow the course of their thoughts, and note how they are able to FIND (in the same Internet) just what you need. But here I feel just laziness, and lack of desire for knowledge, as well as obtaining information. Although maybe I'm over-thickening it and it's not really like that. But if everything works out, I'll check it out in practice in the fall
I won't answer directly, but I'll start from a distance. In part, I already belong to the generation that considers young people stupid. I will explain one of the reasons using my own example: I was born and formed in an era when there was no Internet, mobile communications, or super-services, without which young people can no longer imagine life. And I, like all my generation, know how to solve problems-domestic and work, using pre-Internet methods. For example, I can do repairs myself, fix electrics and plumbing, etc. without calling the appropriate services. I can scrupulously process large amounts of information presented in tedious and unreadable language at work, dig deep, draw conclusions, etc. These are the consequences of Soviet education. In addition, if there are problems with communication and the Internet and I can't get in touch with the office I need, I can't get my ass off the chair and go to this office in person. For mododezhi, this is an hour-long shock. It doesn't occur to them. But earlier problems were solved only in this way. Now about the situations in which my generation says “well, stupid” about young people. For example, two managers work at adjacent tables. Solve an urgent task of calling potential customers. And suddenly, oh horror, the Internet is cut off for an indefinitely long time. It becomes impossible to search for new contacts through it. What does a young person do? It usually gets lost and waits for the Internet to be set up. What does the old one do? He reaches into the back shelf and pulls out paper directories with company phone numbers. He goes to a nearby kiosk and buys the magazine “work and salary” where these phones are also available and starts calling again. This is just one example. You can cite a lot of others. The general thing is that when young people find themselves without modern technical chips, they often get lost, do not know what to do. And “old people” – just remember the old methods of work and continue to solve problems. Not so effective, but the main thing is to continue.
Such statements are akin to teenagers saying that their parents are not interesting. That they (teenagers) are trying to develop, that they will reach heights, that they have ambitions. And their parents… Oh, such boring and uninteresting, stupid people.
These statements have the same problem: they tacitly mean “I know everything you do and can evaluate it objectively.” So when a teenager finds their parents uninteresting, we know that the problem is with teenagers, not their parents. When they grow up, they'll get smarter, but in the meantime, let them take as much offense as they want at their parents ' lack of interest. Similarly, when the older generation says “You are morons, but we are very good”, they act as teenagers. Teenagers who, alas, will not grow up.
“I was already working in your time!“
Most of the previous generations lived in an era when their homeland was developing, that is, people had to work hard and save a lot. Thanks to the savings made by previous generations, this very Homeland has passed into the status of a developed economy. And a developed economy always switches to service.�
It is the service part of the market that is developing. People no longer need to go to the bookstore, they can order a book online. Yes, and books are becoming much cheaper, because the demand for information is growing, and the production of e-books combines minimal costs at all, therefore, prices are falling. The same thing happens in other industries. For example, television and cinema, tourism and extreme sports also belong to the service economy. And their prices have fallen many times over. Young people no longer need to plow in the factory. And the older generation can't accept that. Their style of “work and achieve for yourself” is not relevant, because young people can achieve the same standard of living by working many times less.�
The consumer economy greatly changes people's habits and interests. We read less Lermontov and prefer fashionable clothes. But that doesn't mean we're any dumber. We have become much more efficient. No matter what anyone says, the productivity of the global economy has increased tenfold. This can only be achieved if there is high-quality human capital, because technology begins only when smart people appear. For the past generation, the mind is about working and reading a lot. Today, the mind is cunning and efficient.�
Some economists will say that global growth is speculative, saying that this is all the work of the central bank. And to some extent, they will be right. But they are right only for the last decade, because central banks only entered the game after the crisis of '08.
It seems to me that this is a matter of expectations and language. The older generation tries to speak their own language to the younger generation, and the younger generation tries to speak their own language to the older generation. Both of them are given a foreign language poorly, this leads to a mutual uncritical idea that the other generation is more stupid – it does not understand what they are talking about.
This is a common generational problem, but the older generation has an additional problem of expectations and, consequently, disappointments. I have a suspicion that the mechanism of forming expectations on average is as follows: the older generation has, first, themselves, and secondly, their older generation, for which they themselves were younger. The older generation sees how they themselves have changed in certain parameters relative to the older generation, and makes an unreasonable linear extrapolation of changes in these parameters further to the younger generation. Naturally, in most cases this does not work, hence the disappointment of the younger generation – they expected something different from it.