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  1. To begin with, it was not Marx who said this, but Hegel. However, this is not an absolute truth, but only the opinion of one person, albeit a wise one. In fact, some events occur as a tragedy, some are repeated in the form of a farce, some can be nothing but a farce in principle, and so on. And something is completely impossible to give an unambiguous assessment. For example, take the current situation with the Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement. Once upon a time, slavery was a tragedy, and Negroes in Africa successfully sold each other to white masters. Then the struggle for racial equality was a tragedy. At the same time, racists and racial crimes, as well as their heroes and martyrs, were on different sides. Then there was black “racism on the contrary”, when in the United States, when entering a university, for example, with equal points, an African-American was enrolled, and not a white one (this happened 20 years ago). Today we see a kind of farce – white idiots kissing a black shoe. But the farce is very spiteful, not even funny anymore, when normal people (of any skin color!) we have to confront BLM activists with weapons in their hands. At the same time, the BLM puts forward tough political demands, and the movement has huge organizational and financial capabilities. So today's farce can again turn into a tragedy on a virtually global scale.

  2. Hello, Q organizers and readers. You ask: “What are we seeing now? (we expect a tragedy or farce in our recent history.) For a more or less accurate answer to this question, an extensive sociological study is required.

    We can assume, based on the events of the 90s and the latest realities of our life, that Russian people, considered in three gradations: rich, middle-income and poor, have changed little in their socio – moral and ethical characteristics. Only their ratio has changed. This is not a time of crisis. The store shelves are full and people are full and passive.

    But if there is a sharp deterioration in the Russian economy and a strong decline in the purchasing power of the majority of Russians, farcical speeches are possible (similar to the State Emergency Committee, August 19, 1991).

    As well as tragic events, such as: 9.04.1989. The so-called “Nights of sapper shovels in Tbilisi”. A rally of supporters of Georgia's independence was dispersed in Tbilisi. 19 killed, 4,000 people were injured.

    I-4.10.1993 “Shooting of the House of Soviets”. 124 killed, 348 wounded.

    We have considered the confrontation between the authorities and the protesters, or those who do not obey. But, in a crisis, a confrontation between the “well-fed and hungry”is also possible. It can lead to many small local tragedies with human casualties.

  3. Hello. First of all, history is not a phantom, but the result of people's activity. And repeated (similar) historical events are the result of the activity of people with similar properties in certain conditions. The characteristics of people with the development of civilization are slightly softened, so once they (people) played out tragedies on the stage of the world, and after years and centuries only farces.

    I think that's what Hegel and Marx had in mind. And events (even with similar characters) may not form a single spiral sequence, i.e. they may cause new historical sequences that are not related to the previous ones.

  4. These are not Marx's words. As for history , it is different in every country, even if it is repeated somewhere.

    And these words about the tragedy and farce were written not at all about the History of mankind as a whole, but about local historical incidents. Which tend to average out when zooming in.

    So everything will be fine. And we observe the usual bustle of an ordinary human anthill.

  5. First, it is a quotation from the work of Karl Marx “18 Brumaire Louis Bonaparte”, where Karl Marx quotes Fr. Hegel: “Hegel notes somewhere that all great world-historical events and personalities are repeated twice: the first time as a tragedy, and the second as a farce.” Secondly, F. Hegel's idea is erroneous – it is our consciousness that draws a parallel, connecting two events-the past (tragic) with the modern (comic). Third, history is unique and does not repeat itself, except for certain patterns (for example, the development of any revolution), which, yes, are typed. But even then, individual features within the framework of world-historical events are not repeated. And fourthly, now Russia (since 1991) is going through a period in its history that has never happened before. It – does not repeat any previous one.

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