What does reality truly look like if it is not processed by the human mind and senses?
There is already a similar question, but it gave me some thoughts. 1) The so-called "Selective attention".2) Read it https://mrakopedia.net/wiki/%D0%93%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80Сама the story is not particularly realistic, but the initial data and idea are correct. Can I be sure that the brain doesn't clobber a part of the world? For example, the so-called "otherworldly" part of it.
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True looks for whom? Can the world look like something without processing by the senses and the mind?
We know that animals see and perceive the world differently than we do – it's definitely not processed by the human mind or our senses, but do you need this?
Yes, we don't see everything, we miss a lot, we often make mistakes, but that's what science is for, to check and find out how it really is.
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In the eyes of a quantum microscope, reality looks like a void through which subatomic particles occasionally fly.
In the eyes of a bat, reality probably looks like a “series of uneven surfaces”, although it is not clear whether the mouse sees with its eyes or with an echo sounder. And it is not known whether it perceives reflected waves as sound or as physical pressure on the membrane.
In the worm's eyes, reality doesn't look like it, because it doesn't have eyes.
There is no common reality for all species. What you think of as light, another being can think of as sound. What you think of as silence is a rumble to another being. This depends on the ranges and thresholds of perceptions.
What you consider “green” is “none”. It changes color depending on the color of the flashlight that you have pointed at it. The white-lit object reflected almost all the light except the green part of the spectrum, so we see it green in daylight. At night, it changes color and becomes dark gray or black.
When you eat meat with a salad, you think that they are “different”. But at the atomic level, there is no difference. “Meat protons” are no different from”tomato protons”. There is no meat in the periodic table. From the table you will learn that all substances differ only in atomic mass. The protons of each atom are identical, the difference is only in the number of protons contained in the nucleus of the atom.
In the eyes of a microbiologist, a person is 99% a bacterium, since our body consists mainly of microorganisms.
According to the portal data space.com a study of the composition of more than 150,000 stars has shown that galaxies, our planet, people and everything around us is made up of 97 percent of the same elements, “stardust”.
Reality is a “contractual” or collective illusion.
Whatever you want, that's what it looks like.
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As F. M. Dostoevsky said (through Svidrigailov from Crime and Punishment): “I agree that ghosts are only sick; but this only proves that ghosts can only appear to the sick, and not that they do not exist in themselves. < … > Ghosts are, so to speak, fragments and fragments of other worlds, their beginning. A healthy person, of course, does not need to see them, because a healthy person is a most earthly person, and therefore must live only one life here, for the sake of completeness and order. But as soon as you get sick, as soon as the normal earthly order in your body is disturbed, the possibility of another world begins to affect you, and the more sick you are, the more contact you have with another world, so that when a person dies completely, he will go straight to another world.”
Илл.� Михаила�ГавричковаIn this regard, modern philosophy is characterized by an interest in horror (both in affect and in its articulation in art – horror), which supposedly gives access to the world as it is in itself, and not as it is given in the structures of the second signal system. Eyes of terror (“numb”, “aimless” look) as if they are “dead “(do not select = do not comprehend), things get into the eyes and stick together with each other, because there is nothing to separate them without the Ego. (For more information: Lishaev S. A. Estetika Drugo [Aesthetics of the Other]. – SPb., 2008. – 380 p.).
A peculiar example of such a tearing off of the world of its habitual veils (“the veil of Maya”), the liberation of things from their meanings, is perhaps the insight experienced by the main character of J.-P. Sartre's novel ” Nausea “(1938): “A mother will look at the cheek of her child and ask: “What do you have? A pimple? ” – and he will see how the cheek is suddenly swollen, cracked, slightly opened, and a third eye, a laughing eye, peeks out of the crack. < … > And one of them will feel something scratching in his mouth. He will go to the mirror, open his mouth – and it is his tongue that has become a huge centipede and is scratching his palate with its paws. He'll want to spit it out, but it's part of him, and he'll have to pull out his tongue with his hands. And there will be a lot of things that will have to be given new names: a stone eye, a huge three-horned hand, a crutch foot, a spider jaw…”
Fyodor Ionin's illustration for “Nausea”
This can be understood, in particular, in such a way that in a daze of horror, any habitual explanatory schemes, any patterns of perception lose their self-evidence, as a result of which a person gets the opportunity to isolate the most unexpected and macabre forms (entities) in the amorphous jelly of existence (in Sartre's language).
Илл. Фёдора Ионина к "Тошноте"As Sartre reassures the reader: “Or none of this will happen, no obvious changes will occur, but people will wake up one morning and, opening the shutters, will be surprised by some terrible meaning that has been embedded in things and is waiting for something. That's all, but if it lasts even a little longer, hundreds of people will start killing themselves…
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In order to answer this question, we need to resort to what Stanislav Lem called imitology, or a variation of it – phantomatics, i.e. connecting our nerve endings to a machine that will set up a phantom 3D spectral for us, in which it is very easy to forget where reality is and where the phantom is. Only in this form can you fully understand what the world looks like in the eyes of a non-human. If the machine has a database about the life and behavior of an insect, it will make you feel like an insect through nerve impulses, with all the consequences that follow.
Although this method of cognition of non-human reality can be questioned, because the machine is still created by man, someone programmed it accordingly, which means that it is not an ideal phantom of the insect world.
As Timothy Morton says, no matter how hard you try to break away from your human perception of reality, you will not succeed, because you are still a human being. Any way we learn is a human interpretation of data, and in order for it not to be so, we must become a non – human.
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It doesn't look like it. There is an internal contradiction in your question: to look is to be processed by the senses and the mind. So your question cannot be answered.
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The question itself contains an error. It is impossible to understand what reality looks like without the senses and the mind. Moreover, each of these organs works with some differences. Therefore, reality is a purely subjective perception for a particular person.
You can put the question differently-what can reality look like for artificial intelligence – it does not have human senses and reason. But, will he be able to explain to the person what will be available only to him, and the person will understand? Unlikely.
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For everyone, TRUE REALITY is their own vision. Because for a person there is no reality that is not processed by his senses-according to the adherents of idealistic theory-if you do not see something, it does not exist for you. Agree that if you do not see someone who is always behind your back and does not make any sound or smell-you will never know about him. and someone else's opinion will always be inaccurate for you. Try to imagine” sparassis ” without looking in the directory-what does it look like and what does it smell like ?
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True and looks like. A reality that is not processed by the mind cannot be like this. It can be processed adequately and without distortion. The baggage of past experience will necessarily affect the perception, very few people do not have the prism of illusory nature, such people are called prophets. Reality adequate in consciousness = Truth. But how to see it is difficult. Monks go to the monastery for this and give up the worldly things. As if they are pumping the organ of true Vision or understanding, which distinguishes true from false.
And so much of what we see in the true light and without distortion, we simply do not pay attention to it.
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Nature can manipulate the human mind and sense organs “for the good of the cause”, because man is a part and instrument of Nature.
Information manipulation is very widespread in human society, in living matter and plays a huge role.
A person knows microscopically little about himself personally, and it is very premature and fraught with trouble for such a wretched person to try to find out what is wrong.
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I don't know what selective attention has to do with it. And about the question itself, I will answer that if someone knew this, they would have received many, many Nobel (and other too) prizes. This is not known not only by psychologists, but also by everyone else. For example, physicists use the so-called tracks of elementary particles to express their assumptions (hypotheses) about the structure of the universe, some (most) of which are not confirmed. Geneticists work in much the same way. And historians generally extract grains of knowledge about what happened 500 years ago (archaeologists-even more so). So you can list them endlessly.
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Everything is very similar to what is given to us in cognition. But it is colored with other colors. And it has a lot of inputs and outputs that we just don't know about.
Human vision picks out only roughly one ten-thousandth of the entire spectrum of electromagnetic vibrations. The entire spectrum.
You can imagine how much we don't see. And what surprises can there be in ordinary reality? Especially if you look in a woman's purse. 🙂
Where do the aliens disappear, as if dissolving into thin air? One way is to change our own radiation spectrum to one that is not visible to our eyes. How they do it is already their technology.
Very many creatures use our limited vision and, only by their mistake, are sometimes visible to us.
That's why we don't see entrances and exits, even portals that may be used by others that we can't see.
In short, the same reality outside the window, but a bunch of different colors, “doors” or “gates”, as surprises in those places that we think we have studied, as peeling.
For example, a toilet. You never know what we thought up there or fantasized in thought. Maybe there is a portal formed there. :)))
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This question is easier to answer than you might think. Describe, without going to the Internet, an encyclopedia, or any other source of information, for example, what the atmosphere of Jupiter looks like at a depth of 50 kilometers, or describe the room from which I am currently writing, or imagine that you have never even heard of an elephant; now describe it. It doesn't look like anything. Something can only look like it after being processed by the senses.
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The reality looks rather unpresentable. It is completely different from what a person perceives in the earthly essence. However, it should be noted that for each project there will be exactly its format. The question remains? What to do? Yes, actually nothing! But while life lasts on earthly grounds, you should expand your own knowledge! Either way, it's better than sprouting the whole reality as a vegetable and being suddenly yanked out of it! This is what the Truth says! Detailing reality is meaningless, it still poses a threat to the earth, no matter what direction you should not represent. Only to educate yourself there is no other way! Something like that.
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And here there is no need to invent a lot , the whole universe consists of quantum wave dualism, and everything that we see and perceive is just the process of our earthly development in evolution . And all this should be understood that if we were on another planet, then the perception of the world would be different . A factor for this was even the fact that the difference in the size of the planet or the composition of the air can radically change our views on the world, even in different galaxies there is a development and time that will create the visible world in a different way . I am not an expert, but this is not a fiction, but our reality, which also has its own .
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True reality is the reality in which the mind exists. Therefore, to make a presentation of a reality from which reason is removed is a deliberate fabrication, a deliberately unreal construction.
Reality-from the Latin rēs (thing), that is, objectivity is a system of objects given to the mind for perception. A close (but not identical) concept of reality – or, in Latin, relevance) is a system of actions available to the subject in interaction. Both of these concepts imply that there is a perceiver, and that what cannot be perceived-it cannot be perceived, that is, represented – cannot “look”in any way.
This is not just a syllogism, it seems that this is really a fundamental property: in the quantum world, observation brings certainty to the system, without an observer, coordinates in space and time are not defined at all. The real question is what kind of” fundamental observer ” supports the universe in existence (however, the answer has long been known).
So reality itself implies intelligence. We are talking about the mind as such, and not about specifically human, but the question remains meaningful: what in our perception is determined by our being specifically human, conditioned by a specific material subjectivity? First of all, this space and time is a specific subjective way of perceiving reality. It is clear that forThe mind as such of distance and time does not exist at all, but a person builds his picture of the world as a space-time one. However, our freedom of thought, the ability to think the infinite, the absolute, to make thought experiments, outrunning the light and connecting the edges of the universe, looking beyond the horizons of events-this is a consequence of the involvement of our thinkingThinking as such, its “spark”, figuratively speaking.
Further, of course, we are brought up with our own range of feelings, the aesthetics of humanoid physicality, the sense of our native language-it is clear that we measure the world according to our physical bodies and interests. And for the mind as such, these conventions do not exist and do not exist – but simply do not matter. The very word “look” refers to visual sensibility, to a model in visible colors and bodily forms – and can you think beyond that? You may well be able to – but this is no longer a trend, but an insight.
For a physical, conditioned being, reality looks as it is given to him through his body. And to perceive it as something else – you just need to become someone else. This is not impossible. But if you, as a human, try to imagine reality from the point of view of someone else, for your human nature at this moment, this picture will be inadequate, and therefore it will not be true.
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It's interesting to reflect…
It doesn't look like anything. Because “look” is a visual perception. Our brain builds a model of reality based on incoming signals. The reality itself is nothing. As I understand it, in fact, at the quantum level, it is some kind of energy processes. It can be assumed that the circle is a continuous wave (more precisely, an ocean of energies), which takes shape due to the effect of the observer (which is not scientific – this is rather quantum mysticism, parascience). Many skeptics explain mysticism by selective attention (for example, synchronicities are just selective attention. Which I disagree with). That is, we pay attention to something and consider it a strange coincidence, and we might not notice it. At the same time, yes, if a person abruptly and imperceptibly replaces or disguises a stranger on the street, then the subject does not notice anything. It can be assumed that the reality around us can change quite dramatically from time to time, and we will not notice or write it off as inattention, etc.Hypothetically, you can notice such things when developing awareness along with mystical practices, especially leading to transgression and other transurfing of reality. But this is from the realm of mysticism. It's up to everyone to believe it or not. But skeptics and atheists will not approve of this assumption)). Regarding the same perfume, etc. Again, hypothetically, in a certain state of consciousness, they can be seen (shamanic trance) and even visit the upper and lower astral with consciousness. We can say that the consciousness of an ordinary person cleans up the paranormal, or rather it is in a different setting, unlike a shaman who has tuned in to other frequencies of energy waves. It turns out that we do not so much notice, cleaning up attention, as we do not see spirits, astral bodies, etc. only because we catch a different range of waves (as with sound or light waves). Someone accidentally tunes in and notices and then tells stories. But this is not scientific and some skeptics will even refer to psychiatry.
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Only the Creator, the Supreme Intelligence, can answer this question accurately . A person can only assume, relying on the modest knowledge about the world that humanity has accumulated up to the present moment and which will never reach a true understanding of the surrounding reality due to the limited range of its perception by a person and the lack of an alternative tool for processing perceived information about the surrounding reality for the human mind and
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What's the point of talking about a reality that doesn't interest us? And if we are interested in reality, then it is already shrouded in our thoughts. We will still not be able to take advantage of the “pure” reality because of the overlap of our interests with it.
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It is impossible to answer this question, since any answer is formulated in terms of concepts that are always based on sensory experience. The conceptual description of observations does not have to be unique, and the structure and interrelation of concepts does not have to be isomorphic to the structure of reality, if there is such a structure. In any case, it is impossible to prove or disprove this by circumventing observations.
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Just don't “look like”it. If it looks like it, then it is perceived by someone. But it is not perceived.
This reality is a “soup” of electrons, protons, neurons, and fields of various natures. Our consciousness separates all this, structures it, and turns it into mental images.
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From a practical point of view, if you communicate with the opposite sex directly, and you like it, then hormones begin to work. How do I find out about this? And then you break up with the object of attraction and start corresponding with him on the Internet. And you notice that the person in the photo looks worse than in real life. And gradually, if you do not continue live contact, all the attraction, the hormonal picture begins to fade and you see a person in his original, not quite sexual form. I also drew up one law (no one has ever heard of it): people always look worse in photos than in real life. But if the person in the photo looks good, then in real life he is even more beautiful.
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This is a good question! It is the mind, not the mind, that is responsible for evaluating events to everything else in the form of contradictions- “good”, “bad”, “necessary”, “not necessary”, etc.and does this by perceiving the world through the senses. This very “distorting factor” is our mind, which directly affects the formation of personality, the formation of habits, worldview, etc. It is seeing the world through the prism of the mind that makes seeing the world subjective.
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no way. The World Is A Single formless Reality. Everything else is an optical glitch, a dream subject to certain patterns, of a fractal-holographic type. The glitch of awareness is needed by reality as a property that is additional to existence itself. There is, so I realize. I realize, so there is. AND WHAT is there? Nothing at all. I Am-One Reality, ZERO, Emptiness….
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The question is essentially incorrect. We know in advance that we won't get an exhaustive answer to it, but we still ask ourselves. Why? In fact, we are more concerned not with the truth of what we see, but with how we perceive it. We cannot see the reality in any other way, but we can learn to perceive it more deeply-in our capabilities.
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A person really does not see all of reality. But as his consciousness improves and becomes more refined, the invisible is revealed to him as evidence, both in the speculative sense and in the literal sense. The famous aphorism “Change yourself – and the world will change” is just about this. The real, ultimate Reality does not exist – it is given to us only as a concept, as an ideal, as an eternal goal. It exists only for itself – it is the Absolute.
Imperfection is the cause of incomplete vision. Man, as an existing, material subject, is forever bound up with imperfection. His consciousness is always a prism that distorts Reality to one degree or another. And at the same time, it is precisely because of imperfection that he has the opportunity to live – to comprehend Reality and move towards Perfection.
“What does reality truly look like?” Imagine something most beautiful and sublime, but not selfish, not personal – this will be a portrait of Reality for YOU. For the same person who is above or below you spiritually and intellectually, this portrait will be somewhat different, but in essence-correct.
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I felt sincere respect for the Novel, as a true search engine for the reality of the World, not clouded by human intelligence.
The reality of being is based on an Idea that symbolizes space and time.
Space is twisted in a spiral from zero to infinity and vice versa, located at various levels of stationary orbits throughout the pyramid of multidimensionality.
With the inclusion of various speeds of space transition from the third level to a higher one, the time parameter begins to appear as a mechanism for the occurrence of an event field distributed in the World-Anti-World vectors.
That's about something like this, if on the fingers.
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What, in the stroboscopic perception of human personalities, looks like separate objects-in reality, they are parts of a single universe with different densities of localization of energy formations, driven by the desire of substance to recover and stay in the singularity… In other words, if you observe the universe from a” point of view “that is increasingly” wider ” than is available to humans, then at some stage you will have to distinguish only atoms and the gaps between them…
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True reality does not exist by definition. The observer shapes reality.
Depending on the observer's consciousness, its properties and qualities, the corresponding aspects will be isolated from reality.
At the same time, it does not matter what will act as consciousness-a computer, an insect, a person, everyone will perceive only what is inherent in the nature of their consciousness.
Buddhists have known this for a long time, which is why they talk about the emptiness of so-called reality.
The truth is that the more consciousness develops, the more extensive the perceived world is, not because the world is infinitely diverse, but because it is consciousness that forms it.
We see things in the mirror that aren't there.
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There is a real spiritual world and there is a real physical world. If God opens your spiritual eyes, you will see what is hidden from your physical eyes and feel the spirit world. Everything is basically real; God, the devil, angels, hell and heaven.It depends on what eyes it is to see, feel and perceive. The prophets saw the spiritual world as truly as they saw the physical world.
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Well, what to say in response to this energetic and not devoid of logic author. Here there is one thing that breeds and puts a specific marker on this whole theory. The fact is that the original philosophy for further author's reasoning is fundamentally wrong. It is still the same materialistic one. That is why a person does not have enough perception organs. But these organs are there. There is, but not on the physical plane.
However, from the phrase about your teacher (quote):”…but more and more talked about some mystical bullshit ” it is clear how the author relates to the immaterial world.
The source code for the brain and consciousness is fundamentally wrong. Yes, the brain and consciousness are different things. And they are so different that consciousness is an attribute of a whole person. And the brain is a tool that consciousness uses on the physical plane. If a physical person dies – the brain dies. But consciousness cannot die. It moves to the subtle bodies.
Consciousness is a tree. And the brain is the leaves of a tree that fall in the fall and bloom the following spring. In addition, the mind and brain are also different concepts. The brain is once again a translator of consciousness or, rather, of reason. Its capabilities are limited. The possibilities of consciousness are almost limitless, since consciousness is an integral part of the universal mind. Or the mind of the creator ( Architect, Absolute, etc. – whatever you want to call it).
Reality is a purely human category. For a physical person, the physical world is a reality. But from the point of view of the higher planes of existence, this is an illusion. Disappears man (material) – disappears illusion. Real reality exists exclusively on the highest atmic plane.
We can't talk about things we don't even know about. Reality that is not processed by the human brain is available to those who can transfer their consciousness from the physical plane to the minimum mental plane.
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Has it ever occurred to anyone that the eyes were designed specifically for viewing reality? In other words, that's what it looks like. It may be possible to review more and more deeply, but the part that is available to us looks exactly like this.
I realize that this sounds uninteresting, as if it leaves little room for the imagination. But you should not fall into infantilism, blindly clinging to the assumption that looks attractive. We are not special to see a special world.
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Reality, not processed by the human mind and senses, looks much more complex than expected – so much more complex that even highly educated people are usually ” terribly surprised and shocked.”
EXAMPLE – two famous academicians had a terrible quarrel in this direction, one academician very rudely attacked another academician-physicist with sharp unfounded criticism, who used an accurate physical description of reality. The attacking academician realized late that he understood reality in a “varnished form” – processed by approximate scientific models.
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There are 7 billion “realities” in the world ! every living person has his own reality, there is nothing “objective” in the world for all of us, absolutely EVERYTHING is subjective
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You know perfectly well what reality truly looks like if it is not processed by the human mind and senses.
Every night you fall asleep. In deep sleep, the human mind does not process information coming from the senses. You don't even dream. You are in a pure, untainted reality. And you return from it refreshed and fully rested.
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I read the recommended article.
My opinion is that true reality can only be understood by approaching absolute peace. Any stimulation of the brain leads to some of its reactions-this is a distortion of reality. These reactions are superimposed on reality and create some sensations, pictures. They will all be different.
The author of the article resorts to stimulation by increasing the temperature. This accelerates chemical reactions, including in the brain. You can stimulate the brain with electromagnetic radiation. Researchers I know have resorted to brain chemistry stimulation (drugs). Such pictures were described in the process of use – it takes your breath away. How realistic is this? Just like mirages are just a distorted perception of reality. Everything is the same as we already know, only slightly different.
When you're at peace, it's a different story altogether. Everything alluvial goes away-emotions, feelings, thoughts, memories… Reality remains as it is.
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So. Well, to begin with, let me remind you that we see and feel only a part of the entire spectrum of impacts. some of them are ignored by the body. We call it noise. Well, really – all you don't need is noise. But objective reality consists entirely of noise. they pass through our space, our bodies, and even our thoughts. The brain and the body filters what is not in their “program”. But on the whole, the reality is as philosophies describe it: everything is nothing, and nothing is everything. In other words, if you look at all the noises and see/hear everything that is ignored by us for subjective reasons (on the scale of the universe), then we will not see anything. Everything will be in the form of interference, both visually and audibly. That is, we will see everything and nothing at the same time.
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The author asked a non-essential question and received non-essential answers of varying degrees of complexity and plausibility. I'll answer them, but I'll also ask my own questions. I won't say it directly, and there are reasons for this, those who are capable will see. The truth is that achieving enlightenment does not require special knowledge of mathematics, physics, chemistry, etc. Why? The second truth is that there are those among us who are considered insignificant by society, but they are spiritually superior to others and, accordingly, vice versa. Accept this and think about why. Further, human consciousness is a collection of seven parts. Which ones? And yet each of the seven bodies has its own consciousness. EACH PART has the ability to be separated and to be (exist in being) by itself under certain conditions and in accordance with the inherent limitations. (Did I say restrictions? Yes, that's right-with restrictions). Hence the tendency of any consciousness to project, merge, and separate. When separated, each individual part has the opportunity to manifest its consciousness and engage in a “dialogue” with others. The result of perception of the surrounding world, including all “dialogues”, is interpreted by the receiving part in accordance with the level of perception – often taken for more familiar things because =>. The aggregate part of our consciousness has its own perceptibility, and at the same time suppresses all those parts that are lower (more subtle), refuses to accept their interpretation and measures everything by its own standards (concepts, meanings). Hence the struggle between parts (worlds) generated by non-acceptance and division. Everything happens exactly the same way as you now accept or reject my arguments (listen to the arguments of the surface consciousness). Our consciousness is only a MULTI-layered prism that distorts the true light. But the prism is part of the system, and abandoning it will not allow us to achieve a clear understanding. All the layers should be combined in a package, then with unity, the interpretation will be much clearer. There are those who believe that strengthening one layer (part) while ignoring the rest will achieve the same results. This is not the case, which will be confirmed in higher positions and they will admit the obvious. So, the prism decided to give up its job of seeing, being aware of what it saw, interpret it and project the signal further, but at the same time wants to immediately know its undistorted essence? No guys, this will not work out because you need to deal with those who messed up with the purity of the access channel before you, filter it out correctly and go up to a higher position. Did you explain it in an accessible way? Or should I chew on cause-and-effect relationships for you? And yes, there will be no proof.
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What a wonderful question!
And if you also consider that we see the world through the prism of personal experience, and even our brain likes to simplify, generalize and distort.
Question… and what the world really looks like.
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No way. Until it is processed by the human senses and evaluated by the mind , it does not look like anything. As long as no one saw you personally, then no one cares if you're naked, in sweatpants or exclusive clothes. The same goes for the universe. A person is not yet able to build a completely objective model (and that will only be mathematical) of the Universe, because in any case, he passes any data through his perception and tools that are built on the basis of his perception of the surrounding world. It is possible that one day we will go beyond it (in the case of the quantum world, we are already going beyond it), but nevertheless it is impossible to build a completely objective model of the Universe at the moment.
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In fact, our perception is limited by the completeness of the information model with which we operate. And these models are all different-people, dogs, grasshoppers… Moreover, they are also different for people, with varying degrees of coincidence. Therefore, even between close people there is a misunderstanding. As Tyutchev wrote, ” A spoken thought is a lie.”
Does a person need an objective reality, that is, a kind of “divine vision”? Another Russian writer and philosopher, Vladimir Odoyevsky, tried to answer this question in his short story “Improvisator”. The hero of the story enters into a deal with some demonic type, just wanting to learn how to write poetry passably. He honestly warns the graphomaniac that in addition to this ability, he will get two more-to see everything and understand everything, and the unfortunate man happily agrees, not understanding what kind of adventure he got involved in…. Read the story, it is very vividly and figuratively described what followed… -
it looks very vague. and then, here's how you can even compare the perception of one and the other person? here I see a green leaf, I know that it is green(I was told so as a child and I remember) and I even know why it is green. but I absolutely cannot prove that the way I see green and the way the person standing next to me sees it are the same thing. we just agreed on common names, but this agreement does not guarantee a common perception at all. you can certainly talk about the wavelength called”green”, but this still does not indicate the same perception even by two people. therefore, there is only one answer – only that part of reality that no one has ever observed looks true. and as soon as they observe it, it will immediately become perceived, not looked at. and all this is quite applicable to the entire universe and all its observers. I believe that even for God there is a certain chosen way of perceiving reality, however, as incomprehensible as that of the person standing next to him. to judge, you need to compare. but we can't compare other people's perceptions with our own! we can only compare the agreed terms! for example, if from the very beginning of life you say about a leaf that it is blue, then those who have accepted this reality will find it very difficult to communicate about colors with those who remember them normally. and I'm not sure that they will be able to change their minds! after all, the difference in names will overlap with the difference in perception! it may be possible to get closer, for example, by connecting directly to someone else's brain, but this is still a different brain with its unstable reactions… and what truth can there be here!? so, the edge. point of view….
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true reality looks very unattractive. Let's take human appearance as an example. Shapeless ears, unsightly nose, head connected to the body by an incomprehensible process. I'm not even talking about the genitals. I would have fired this designer who developed the image of a person without severance pay. So we don't need true reality
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The thing is, the world looks like it… no way, there is no single truth about this for everyone, as far as the world is concerned. That is, there is no single unified view. People, cats, dogs, spirits-the world looks different for everyone. But if we are talking about a person, then we would look almost black and white and turned upside down, this is if the brain did not turn the kratinka for us and the eye would not recognize colors.
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Lol, the story is a reworked version of Lovecraft's invisible color.
Here's the thing, let's ask a better question: what does material reality look like with respect to the hydrogen atom and the photon?
Among all things material, hydrogen is minimal in size, and the photon is the most observed elementary particle.
Oddly enough, the characteristics of these objects are enough to describe the size, temperature, spectrum, amount of matter, and so on.
The question is that you can only see it as a mathematician sees functions , that is, mentally.
But to see reality with your eyes, you will need to level abstract thinking and vision. And this is quite an interesting engineering task and I doubt that it is easy to implement. -
I read philosophical answers, many of them quite wise.
I do not understand, please explain to me a narrow-minded person, why do you need such knowledge?
After all, you are first of all a human being and always perceive everything through our human prism of looking at the world. Even if you became an insect with all the feelings that follow, you would still remember, feel everything as a person, in the beginning, according to the idea, you need to give up your human, everything that makes you human and only then somehow fabulously move into another creation, then it is quite possible to forget about everything that was you will feel something different, but the question is why do you need these feelings, if you can no longer convey or tell about it, because is not a person, erased themselves from history and their entire history
If I tell you that reality is terrible, so unpleasant that we would go crazy if we saw it and what is inherent in us from birth, what we see is not true, just a protective barrier against the horror that exists all the time. With such thoughts, you can go into the distant darkness and never return from there, do you want to do this?
Something carried me myself:)
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The reality of the world is laid down in early childhood – the first and most important in the process of adaptation.
At this stage, for the child, there is no difference between real and fictional reality. The important aspect of imitation, where the authoritative example is the surrounding people. In the process of socialization, the initial attitudes are adjusted, but the basic, initial base remains the foundation.
Given the artificial world that surrounds us, we should not be surprised why this question arises.
The senses process the reality already formed by society, where this individual lives. What are the rules, this is the reality.
The biosphere has its own reality – not changed, but thoroughly corrupted by man. In the technosphere, it is artificial and alien to the biosphere, but it creates a desirable comfort zone for a person, which he cannot refuse.
What is real is what you can imagine and believe it to be. It just so happens for the creator that we think and communicate using images encoded with words, letters, and numbers.
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As reality, i.e. complete dissolution in reality – to be everything that can be and at the same time not identifying with anything concrete. Consciousness becomes arupa, i.e. it does not create the illusion of the existence of forms and thus dissolves into non-being.
It is also said that Absolute Light is Darkness.
Can I be sure that the brain doesn't clobber a part of the world? For example, the so-called “otherworldly” part of it
The brain as an instrument of the mind, of course, makes its own mistakes, but still the main distorter is the mind itself and the intellect that is not synthesized with spirituality. The improvement of the brain will occur not forcibly and artificially, but as a consequence of the expansion of consciousness and the transfer of the priority of perception to the heart's understanding.
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I will express an absolutely subjective opinion ) We take our human natural language as the starting point. So, as a result of understanding and mastering reality through activities and communications, mathematics emerged. Mathematics is real when its concepts are applied in “tangible” areas , like counting grains, for example. And without reference to anything, mathematical terms also exist. We just accept what they are. And they live like abstractions in our brains, in the global world of ideas. It can also look like an objective reality – in the form of an abstract representation taken on faith. And then you can describe it. Abstraction in this case makes it possible not to touch reality, but to make the assumption that this abstraction is objective reality. Roughly speaking, in any case, it will be a game of the mind within the framework of thinking formed by language, based on past experience, etc. But who knows, maybe when we create something that doesn't exist in our brain, we embody it in other dimensions. But this is no longer for fans of logic.
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I'd say it doesn't look like anything, because no one is looking at it. If we talk about the possibility of perceiving it in some other way, then it will be processed by a different tool of perception or observation.
And the brain, for example, may simply not see the vast spectrum of what is happening. Just as a cat with monochrome vision does not see the richness of colors, or insects that see in UV, see everything in general differently. Moreover, it is handled differently.
And our scientists, who probe the universe with the help of electron beams, multi-band radio waves, magnetrometers, gravitometers, can also see a narrow strip of existence and declare that “we know this world in detail” or, even worse, that “there is no such or such thing in this world.” Then they calculate dark matter and dark energy in a pure model, and they wonder what it is, because we don't see it…
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As many people have noticed here, selectivity or processing begins already at the stage of the senses themselves, due to the limited perceived range of external influences. The next filter is encoding external sensations into nerve impulses that deliver information to the brain. Then these impulses are somehow processed by the brain, which supposedly creates a picture of reality for us. It is this at least triple filtering and interpretation that we call the perception of reality, i.e. the process of “seeing”it. So either we have to admit that the result of this “looking” is reality itself, or reality doesn't look like anything at all without someone looking at it.
But these are just flowers. The problem is that if you adhere to strict logic, then all of the above is only the result of the work of that very brain. I.e., not only the image of the external world, but also images of sensory organs with sensations, nerves with nerve impulses and (Oh! The horror!) even the image of the brain itself is the result of its own work! Simply due to the fact that all this “liver” is part of the external world, which is presented to us only in our brain. To get away from this paradox, we have to admit that all this so familiar picture of “external reality” is formed not even in our brain, but simply nowhere. This” nowhere ” is commonly called consciousness. It turns out that our consciousness is the only reality.
In addition, the physical reality described by modern quantum physics is essentially reduced to nothing. First of all, the particles are now point-like, i.e. they are not actually present as bodies, there are only centrally symmetric fields that are interpreted as particles. Second, particles are not waves, because the so-called “wave function” describes probability waves and is a purely mathematical entity. As a result, we have a void with mathematical probability waves.
In fact, modern theoretical physics is pure mathematics, plus some clumsy attempts at” physical ” interpretation designed to somehow visualize all this mathematics. There are all sorts of strings with branes on the way. And in the end, we are forced to guess here what all this mathematical “swaying void” looks like.
It doesn't look like anything. This is just an attempt to mathematically describe the consistency of changes in the states of macro objects that we observe.e. movement of the instrument hands and changes in the chemical state of the substance. And all these atoms and elementary particles are just a convenient visualization of mathematical abstractions. Reality is only what is directly observed by us, that is, what appears in our consciousness. Therefore, there is no problem with the collapse of the wave function, since it is a mathematical abstraction, and reality is perception itself. We can't observe mathematical waves 🙂 Although it is fair to admit that it still has a symbolic reality, like all mathematics. And where does she live? Conscious. Like all abstract concepts such as God, Being, matter, the external world, objective reality, infinity, point, continuity, etc.
Just don't talk about solipsism. Why confuse consciousness with will? Nothing prevents consciousness from having its own laws that are not entirely subject to the will and thus being external to it.
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It doesn't look like anything. Reality cannot be seen, it can only be felt. Not on an emotional or material level (which is usually what 90 percent of people live on). It's a state of mind. It is the person who creates this or that objectivity for himself, for living in it, and attaches special importance to this.
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I'm not a psychologist, philosopher, or cultural critic, but an engineer. I'll try to answer from an engineering point of view. Our senses are able to perceive the following external factors::
- electromagnetic radiation (light is actually electromagnetic radiation of a certain frequency range) – vision
- mechanical vibrations in the air – hearing
- direct mechanical action and temperature-touch
- contact with molecules of certain groups of substances – sense of smell and taste
In order not to repeat myself, I will consider the most important and informative feeling for a person – vision. But with all the others exactly the same.
Light is a very tiny range of radiation frequencies. Outside of it, there are at least a colossal number of times smaller frequencies – long radio waves. And in a colossal number of times larger – gamma radiation, which ordinary people simply call “radiation”. But even if we take only light, the human eye perceives a very small range of its frequencies, which is called “visible light”. Beyond its limits, infrared and ultraviolet radiation remain.
That is, human vision perceives an incomprehensibly tiny range of radiation frequencies known to science. And even in this tiny range, the brain is not able to process all the information coming from vision at the speed required for life. Everyone knows the phenomena of attention fixation, etc. Thus, the brain discards information that is usually less important, so that it does not interfere with the processing of usually more important information.
And now let's say we are still expanding the frequency of perception, when even those that are available to us, we can not fully process! So the answer to the question is. Reality not processed by the human mind and senses looks like “white noise” – endless rippling dots on the TV screen, working in conditions of interference that is stronger than the TV signal. Or in other words, an indistinct mess of colossal, unprocessable amounts of information.
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I have no idea what “reality” is outside of processing by any of the human senses. We can only imagine it(but in fact we will just use our brain to create our own opinion about it). Even now, when we conduct this discussion, we are based on the knowledge obtained from our senses(touch, sight…).
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the question is stupid – what is truth and what are the universal criteria for truth, regardless of the person ? what does it mean to look without being tied to anything ? and so the question is correct: WHAT DOES THE THING-IN-ITSELF LOOK LIKE FOR ITSELF ????
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it doesn't look like it. processing by the senses allows it to give shape and properties. if you remove the senses and mind (and everything that is meant by this in the context of the question), nothing will remain, since there will be no starting point for the image. this is an impossible question – all reasoning is false.
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what you have described is simply delirium, near-death delirium caused by a malfunction of the body's systems. I will not go into details, but the real world looks like dots and dashes (a binary system is similar to zero and one, where a dot is zero, a dash is one) I will give an example – a computer works similarly creating from binary (o and 1), an assembler and then the processor translates it all into program routines, operating systems where words, pictures, toys and movies, only a large quantum computer and a holographic screen…
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Not that they are overwritten, but rather excluded by a different background for perception.It's like in the cinema and theater they show what needs to be shown and admired, and everything else is missing, for the viewer and trying to recreate it with his mind, that is, to remove the ban.This is a normal phenomenon in our artificial world, for the creators, anam, we are not among them, WE are JUST a TOOL for the creators and all that.
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To get an answer to a question with these conditions, contact a deafblind person. It's like giving a person an orange and asking them to evaluate its taste and color only after someone else's death, depending on who comes first.
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Despite the fact that the world is constantly changing, human senses remain unchanged. No matter what devices we design, no matter how much we learn about our body, we can only record our reactions to something outside of us. We are constantly in the same reality – in a field called the light of infinity.This Higher Light is a uniform field, similar to a force field. A simple upper Light fills the whole of reality. There is no beginning or end to it, it has always filled and will continue to fill.
We are created as a point that feels itself. Ultimately, there is one force, and there is a point in it that feels individual, its own life force. This point develops until it begins to perceive reality as infinity.
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It looks, by the way, quite simple. Protons scurry between neutrons, and they do the same. Electrons and positrons swirl around, sometimes getting caught in a dispute and turning them into each other. But these are all snobs. The main ones are ubiquitous photons. These merry men play, it seems, passing roles now, but they take a lot. Everything is made up of them. And a person is also a lot of photons. More feelings, emotions – more photon labor. But if you dig deeper, these are all bits with bytes. Just.
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Reality is exactly as our eyes and senses see it. The only question is how well we see it. The development of society and knowledge (sciences) lies precisely in this, in order to reflect as qualitatively as possible a single reality that surrounds us. This is the path to truth. And animals see the same reality, but less qualitatively. For example, animals do not see our social connections, although domestic dogs and cats partially see these connections as well.
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Perhaps the word “true” is inappropriate here.
Everything that has sense organs on this planet, except for a person, sees this world in its own way. And this is true for him. The dog sees and feels like a dog. The fly sees and feels like a fly. Chameleon, bird, butterfly, tiger, dolphin, etc. – all experience this world in their own way, because the senses are adapted to function in a certain environment, in a certain life cycle.
We don't know what the planet looked like a million years before us, but the fact that it already had conscious life is confirmed by certain finds – artifacts. And since modern science does not understand, for example, why and how some of the oldest objects were created, we can assume that those creators looked at the world, lived, thought somehow differently from us. And even more so if they were not local-Earth-dwellers.
Having what we-humans as a biological species-have, we can only view and perceive the reality of today in this way. And this is true for us now. Why is another matter.
Of course, there are individuals with mental peculiarities who see life, the world more deeply, especially. But these are exceptions.
Perhaps, when our development continues, the perception of the world will change, and people with the help of a thinking apparatus and developed sense organs will perceive the world differently. And that will also be true. Well, there is simply no absolute truth!
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How many philosophers and psychologists, so many opinions on this subject…except,of course, for the officially accepted opinion of the scientific…) The latter can be read in the tutorial.And I, if you don't mind, will share my opinion.If I'm not mistaken, then you are not writing a scientific work,but wondering what the world is like,what reality really is? And so…It is basically the same thing that we all see, hear, and feel… oddly enough…)They differ because we are, however, all different, just small details…shades of color…the key of the sound…perception of smell…everything else, the basis, so to speak, is the same for everyone and therefore real. Want to make sure?)Take a book and ask several people, say, who are located in different parts of the world, without hearing or seeing each other, to read a particular passage from the text, or show them a portrait of the Mona Lisa and ask what they see?With the exception of minor details, everyone will read the same lines and, interpreting in their own way, describe the appearance of a woman against the background of a Tuscan landscape. Reality is the same ,but we PERCEIVE it differently…because of their capabilities, their development,their abilities…)
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A ridiculously posed question. The human mind is blocked by the pineal gland, vision is distorted by optical illusions, hearing does not perceive two-thirds of the existing sound vibrations – what do you want to see under such conditions? Otherwise, the question is simple. We exist in the ocean of ether, which takes on any form at the slightest impact – you turned your head, and the world around you bloomed in an unthinkable combination of colors, inflorescences, sounds, tangible movements. But, instead, we got our own “anthill” and a fertile uterus, which we are obliged to feed and protect.
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Reality is incomprehensible until there is an observer. And only the observer can comprehend the distortions of reality. Until we process it with our senses and mind, it doesn't exist in our understanding. That's what Einstein said about time. In his understanding, time does not exist until nothing happens. That is, there was no time before the big bang. This is a false understanding. Time always exists, but it is not always possible to judge it and understand what it is. It is not always possible to measure it. But it is always there and always will be. Approximately the same with reality.
And, yes. The brain overwrites a part of the world.
And often the otherworldly is a mind game. Perhaps the mind game is the result of a physiological disturbance of the central nervous system.
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“…Would you like to become a human?”
“.. Did you want to have dark glasses pulled down over your eyes, your ears, mouth and nose covered, and your hands and feet tied?”
What exactly would you like? Seehear ouch astesmell ultraviolet, infrared
adioultrasonicinfrasound waves, radiation, magneticgravitational fields?I hasten to disappoint you, you most likely would have gone mad and very quickly. The brain is designed to perceive stimuli that are important to the species, but it cannot perceive them all.
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You may have expected a different response, but……
It is enough to have imagination and sincerity.
First of all, you can listen to your feelings, determine what we perceive with our senses, and the second stage is to understand, at least theoretically, what “remains behind the scenes”. For example, what remains beyond personal vision can be understood by zooming in, what remains beyond hearing – play with high and low sounds, catch that there is a limit. Here, of course, sincerity is important – do not try to think that you can hear something else, but rather realize when the moment comes that when the volume/tone is lowered/increased, nothing changes in perception. And to recognize that actually unconscious ranges exist, there are waves with characteristics that, for various reasons, are not recognized by the human consciousness. Historically, the human mind did not need to process 100% of the information from the surrounding world, so only 5 collectively conscious ones remained from the human senses, and the average ranges of perceived waves were used to describe them.
To realize at least the reality that even 5 organs of the physical body could perceive, which is not limited to the average statistics of the organs of perception and the template consciousness, we must first agree that the waves have not gone anywhere outside of perception, they are there. Waves are essentially the movement of subtle matter. It remains only to assume what objects of true reality are formed by thin matter during compaction). Most likely, these are the most grandiose worlds in which entities “live” with a different range of perception, one might say, a different personal “dimension”. And it is very likely that they do not perceive us either (they do not see/hear/realize us).
In addition to unconscious wave processes, there are ordinary physical objects that we cannot see/hear/touch/eat simply because they are out of proportion to our bodies. They are not yet a true reality, but the very fact of recognizing their existence already expands the boundaries of a person's ideas about the world around them.
What can we say about irrational worlds that are objectively part of true reality? You can conduct a small experiment under normal conditions. During a friendly meeting, honestly describe the table at which your company is sitting. And ask your friends to do the same. The answers will be as different as the minds of people from the company are brought up differently. That is, most likely, everyone will describe what is more relevant for their consciousness (in the first part of the question) and does not contradict the fact (it will be confirmed by others; and in fact, elementary ignorance is also possible – someone may sincerely consider an oak table to be plastic or ceramic dishes to be crystal).
The more often such experiments are performed,the less the brain will limit perception and the truer the perceived reality will be. Unfortunately, reincarnation alone is probably not enough for a high-quality realization of the truth.
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The highest philosophy of Buddhism – Madhyamaka-will give the answer. The theory of” emptiness ” considers issues of perception of reality without subject-object dichotomy. This is all very difficult of course – you can go crazy studying -but very interesting.
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No way. In order to “look” you need an observer. The very word “look” implies the beholder. Without an observer, matter will cease to manifest itself and reality will not arise. In order to clearly answer your question, it is necessary to separate the concepts of “matter”and ” reality”. What is real is what you realize. “Reality”, by definition, is what is formed in the consciousness of the observer of information obtained by means of observing “matter”, in our case, these means: sight, touch, smell. If we (consciousness) are absent, then ” observation “will not occur, and” reality “in the observer's consciousness will not arise due to the absence of an observer, although” matter “will not disappear anywhere and will certainly continue to exist, only in an unobservable, unreal” unmanifested ” state.
And further, developing the topic: any picture perceived by our perception tools and folded into “reality” in our minds will be fundamentally illusory due to the imperfection of these observation tools of ours, such as a limitation in the viewing range, the period of working capacity, and the limited duration of the very existence of us (the observer). Because of this lack of perception, we would never be able to see the whole world as it really is.
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There is no reality “processed” and further down the text. Reality is the OBJECTIVE, the absolute truth. And what is” processed ” by the individual consciousness is ideal, relative truth, that's all. How correctly it corresponds to the absolute truth, practice shows, making the ideal representation an object suitable for human use. And this object, as it was, remained so, a person only LEARNED about it what is accessible to human senses and reason.
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The true appearance of objective reality, not processed by the senses, can be imagined on the basis of knowledge about what and how our brain completes, colors, groups, cuts out and simplifies for us. As examples of what happens only in our head, but not really around us: 1)” colors”, which the brain shows the features of reflected light, 2) “empty space” between the observed objects around, which is actually occupied by all the same particles, 3) “sounds” – vibrations of the same particles, 4) “dense whole bodies” – collections of closely packed particles, which still never even touch each other at the smallest level and should, in fact, be transparent, 5) “a fundamental noticeable difference” for our eyes of objects and substances, although even the most different molecules all eventually consist of exactly the same elementary particles, only the distances between them are different… And much more. If you make a correction for all this and try to present the original before the brain intervenes, then the objective reality is an all-encompassing colorless, soundless fog of continuously vibrating fine dust, which constantly oscillates in waves of different sizes with different frequencies, while individual areas of dust of different shapes and densities in it move with relative preservation of their shape, passing through some streams of this dust and pushing off from other accumulations. In such a reality, it would be difficult to survive and navigate, hence our internal processing with all its colorful beauties and distinguishable objects.
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Something can look like something only when there is an observer, without observation there is nothing …the void is absolute. No forces and energies occur without observation, it makes no sense …there must be an energy source on one side and a consumer on the other. Or an event and an observer, it's like who likes it. A person is a unique creation or creation ,or self-education as it is convenient for you, it is a piece of time with a unique set of factors acting exclusively at the moment in a given place and only with you. But the most interesting thing is that you are both an observer and a bearer of the event and have a unique ability to be aware of yourself at this moment.
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Very interesting opinion, but the article is not indisputable. What does the world look like in the absence of an observer? In my humble opinion, without any pretensions to become true, in the absence of an observer, the world around us looks nothing (because there is no one to observe). Objective perception is not possible in principle. Each observer, depending on the species, and simply because of its uniqueness as an individual and ego, perceives it in its own way. After all, both our senses and our mind are nothing but a product and part of this very reality.
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There is such an interesting scientific and philosophical direction as the Philosophy of Synthesis, which synthesizes the best achievements accumulated by mankind in the field of philosophy, science, social disciplines, etc. It offers an interesting vision of the structure of the universe, including worlds and realities.
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It doesn't look like it. “To look” means “to be considered.” Before contact with the senses, reality is a thing in itself. Read Kant, my dear.
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I once asked myself this question and it was difficult to think of something. Until I watched David Icke. Which conveyed a certain idea about vibrations and waves. But it turns out and in truth, our vision is also waves, as well as sound before the final result gets into our brain and then the brain processes it. And here you can ask yourself if visual perception is waves, then it can be easily deceived by replacing waves, for example, a Negro will be white or vice versa, or even as in the movie “Strangers among Us”. So Obi-wan's words “Your eyesight can deceive you” have a completely scientific basis.
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Of course, the brain “erases” most of reality. I believe that it is impossible to see the whole of reality, for this you need a brain that is comparable in complexity to the whole of reality. And this is most likely not the case. I also suspect that many aspects of reality are fundamentally inaccessible to us, even though they exist objectively.
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From the fact that understanding and realizing does not cause problems, we can highlight a couple of points. Namely: For example, when you look at something green, are you sure it's green? In vain. We don't see things as they are. We see the reflected spectrum, light of a certain wavelength. In this case, it is green. But it's not the color of the item. This is what We see.
Well, or another moment. There is a theory that our brain is not able to come up with or invent something that it has not seen before. Well… Theory as a theory.
But, there are also a couple of moments that fans of this theory and not only gave us. Namely: For example, we are standing in a 3/4-turn to the main object of complex geometry with letters in different languages.
The first thing the brain will do is compare all the angles of the recess and turns of the complex geometry with what it has already seen at least once. And it will complete the invisible part of the complex geometry with the images in your memory that are most similar. But… If you focus on the letter, nothing changes. But when you focus on the object itself, it will start to change, as close as possible to the ideal. You're worth 3/4… Only monocular vision works. And when you first look at it with two eyes, it will become what it is. Well, or almost ))
After that, the brain will remember the object. And there will be no more severe swings.
According to some data, the brain can easily compensate for + – 65% (finish drawing). In different situations in different ways, of course. The fear factor (a complex of b enzymes for the brain) can raise this bar to 95% if you consider the threat to your life extremely strong.
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While trapped in a human body, the spirit can experience feelings and emotions. While in the human body, there is no need to try to feel accessible, for example, nosekomym or even go beyond this framework. Otherwise, the very meaning of being in the body is violated. Having understood this, the question itself, voiced by the author, will disappear.�
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Previously, I would have said, “Learn to control your mind and see for yourself,” but now I will say that I do not advise you to strive for this.
Nietzsche was right when he said, ” If you stare long into the abyss, the abyss begins to stare at you.”
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If you meditate, which is called bis zum Ende, you end up seeing a cobra in front of you. This is aerobatics.
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Reality can't look like it. Only the display of reality can look like prints traces of reality:
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on the photo and film (so far the most detailed display with gelatin-based emulsion);
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as a pixel image on the monitor;
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in the form of traces left by fossils of animals and plants;
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as particle tracks in a bubble chamber;
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etc.
Reality manifests itself in a change in its state. The current state of reality can be judged by various images, including the display of the human and animal brain by the neural network. This mapping is itself a reality, which can in turn be mapped by current and potential reliefs of electric charges in the biological tissues of living beings.
Cognition of reality consists in learning to accurately predict changes in the state of reality based on current and past representations of this very reality. That is, reality is replaced by a model that allows you to predict its display in the future from the current and past states of reality displayed in any way. According to the huge variety of representations, in general, a single reality in its essence, we have to deal with a huge variety of models: physical, biological, social, economic, etc.and others. The most common and widespread are mathematical models that are based on the most simplified representation of reality.
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The word “looks” in this question is no longer correct. Only what you look at looks good. But what is it like without the human eye and consciousness? And does it coincide with what we see and realize?
The answer is actually simple. You lived to see this day and asked this question. Consequently, your senses, your consciousness, and human experience were correctly assessing the environment. You didn't run away from a hare or try to pet a wild lion or wolf.
Nature has arranged us to be reflected in ourselves. The rest is details…
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You can safely consider this world an Illusion of Illusion within Illusion of Illusion, etc. to infinity. Nothing makes sense. Everything is true. Consciousness is a fake, like everything that surrounds you), etc., etc. to infinity…))
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To know this, you need to “wake up” in the world of Plato's ideas.
Example: Initially, any person appears as an idea of a Mother and Father. And only then is this idea translated into something tangible. A human body appears. But just as at an early age we are unconscious and simply flow through the waves of events, so we are still not conscious as an Idea. Once this is done, you can see the World of Ideas. The space is not processed by the human mind in your understanding.
Another option is to study the theory of Emptiness by briefly studying the theory in Buddhist sources.
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Reality is partially projected in our minds. Firstly, it is an infinitesimal part of reality, and secondly, even the projected part is very subjective. There is no guarantee that my red color is the same as yours, maybe it is the same as your green color.
Everything can be outside of this projection.
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If you are concerned about such problems, ask the Zagorsk Experiment. Soviet scientists have dug up a lot of data in this direction. There you are not a pig Maskovsky with electrodes in his head, our people have reached the frontiers in the field of psychology (conditionally, the experiment can be attributed here), which in physics can be compared with String Theory, for example. And most importantly, they received practical positive results.
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Don't worry. Considering that you read all sorts of obscurantists-the brain not only does not erase, but also completes and finishes. In fact, the universe is made up of a single particle that moves in time from the beginning of the universe to the end of the universe and back. It's boring, isn't it?
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Reality, not processed by human interpretation, looks like handles of luminous threads running in all directions from infinity to infinity. Most of all, they look like a bunch of dry grass thrown into the air.
At least, this is how Castaneda describes the world, if you “see” the essence of things and reject human interpretations.
But in fact, the question itself is stupid and meaningless.
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Otherworldly world, world of spirits = world of smells… the problem is that the smell is able to bypass everyday consciousness by directly affecting the motives(the primary motor reactions of the “lizard”are the reptilian brain) which already form an image(of the spirit) in the mind. Because a person has abandoned the need to navigate by smell, has thrown out the need to process this data(leaving only the main thing), but they are there and live their lives in an otherworldly, “invisible” world. And the reality looks terrifyingly grandiose, against which God is a completely petty, meager swamp of human claims.
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As a collection of all possible particles and waves with different amplitudes, lengths, frequencies, and periods. And the mind and sense organs are limited by their own boundaries of perception.
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I think the probabilistic “nature” of reality is more honest. Specifically for us, people, it manifests itself-to a very large extent-visually and tactilely-in the “here and now” style. Too many highly subjective aspects – both of reality itself and our purely anthropic perception of reality – are pressing on us to be able to present it in an absolute “naked” form – having abandoned the dogmas and misconceptions that humanity has accumulated in abundance over the entire history of its rather difficult and contradictory existence. The” realness ” of reality is difficult for us to question, in particular, since almost everything around us has – quite clearly and “reliably” – a tangible density, elasticity, and fundamentality. You can also say that naked reality – in its essence-consists of … voids – after all, it is still considered (and even sort of checked!!!) that the atom inside is almost 100% emptiness – if you remove all the emptiness from the Universe, you will get an insignificant handful of “its very essence”… And even then – if you collect matter in a sufficiently compact region – for example, in a black hole-then it collapses into an almost infinitely dense point. If you “smear” all the matter in the universe-making the distances between the” components “of matter very large-then it is also very strange to talk about reality as something “whole” and meaningful…
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I recommend reading the book” On Intelligence ” by Geoff Hawkins, although he is in the position of the so-called physicalists, there is something interesting in his work, including about reality.
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If reality is not processed by the senses, then you do not exist in it. And it is completely independent of you. The question is a mind game. On the basis of reason and feelings, relationships with reality are built. It depends on the purpose for which relationships arise and which sensory organs are primarily used. Dangerous is not dangerous. You can eat it or not. Whether your creativity develops or not. The reality will be different. The reality will be as we perceive it.
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human vision is inverted. the inverted right hemisphere works with the left eye and vice versa. well, for dessert – negative vision, that is, what we see and what we perceive are not the same thing.
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Jacques Fresco: You're wasting your whole life – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mztdfOybmZM
We create reality in our minds, and the “physical” world is just a mental construct.
– Jane Roberts
“The Rabbit Hole, or What We Know about Ourselves and the Universe” (read online) – https://www.livelib.ru/book/131652/readpart-krolichya-nora-ili-chto-my-znaem-o-sebe-i-vselennoj/~37
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No one can say what reality truly looks like, because no one has ever seen it, knows it, and will never see it or know it, even though everyone and everything uses it.
Science will never explain reality-although in the near future, all the research of science will be fully directed (directed) to an increasingly fruitful use of reality.
Everyone knows what reality is, but they will be able to see it, and not explain it, when for this world they will once and for all part with their body and the return path (return) to the life they have lived will be irrevocably closed.
We know our world, the universe beyond them, just as, beyond them, we also question reality.
Because reality is revealed not in the process of finding (what has become), but in the process of re-investing consciousness: a person is no longer what he was, but also not what he will become. At the same time, the decorated form is always a dream or an illusion.
Reality opens up when the consciousness in the absence of forms, colors and properties and from the side of forms (life) to see what reality looks like means to see (realize) everything and like the universe fit the entire earthly world with everything in it in the palm of your hand.
In spiritual practices, there are instructions for the subject when meeting reality, how to behave in that situation, for example:
“does not seek-to go to it and does not deny – to withdraw from it, another…
This unconscious state of consciousness of the individual is reality
however, from the point of view of the become, reality becomes an illusion.
Reality opens up in this transition it is like a heartbeat between beats or a moment (instant) while being neither one nor the other and which, as strange as it is, you need to have time to realize.
Practitioners teach that the minimum experience gained here on earth increases the chance of finding, realizing, and visualizing reality there by a hundred thousand times.
For this reason, in this life, everyone has a chance to meet reality, but this is another side of the issue and a matter of everyone's free will.
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The only observer who does not reduce information about reality in the process of observation is the Creator. The Lord. The rest of them cut everything down and cut it up. And each cuts down on the degree of its development.
It's just that. And from whose point of view to observe reality? If you define it, then you can assume with some truth what reality looks like… from this hummock… view. 🙂
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not processed by the senses, it looks exactly the same. But why the body temperature is exactly this, it is clear. Because man is designed for this temperature. It's like a device that operates at a certain voltage – if you give more voltage, it will go bad
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The brain is precisely blotting out a part of reality that signals from which are not needed for survival. Special exercises can teach the brain not to do this. Again, you need to know where to train.
You can't directly answer the question “what does it look like”. Our language is not designed for such descriptions. Again, we use only those linguistic concepts and systems that are necessary for survival.
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The very word “looks” already leads us to focus reality through the lens of perception. If you remove this lens, the image simply disappears.
The question is equivalent to asking. What is the image in the mirror that no one is looking at?
An image is the rays that hit the screen of the camera matrix or retina of the eye, passing through a focusing lens placed in a separate place. If such a sensing device is not placed in any place in front of the mirror, then all the rays reflected from the mirror will be equivalent. And at each point of the mirror, in fact, an almost infinite number of rays are reflected at very different angles. And from these rays, you can form an infinite number of images. In the same way, reality is a soup of potentials, from which an infinite number of perceptions can be formed in accordance with the angles and selectivity of the perceiving subjects.
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We live in a space filled with vibrations. Vibrations of fields, energy flows (for example, electromagnetic), and media vibrations (for example, gas vibrations). As well as material objects (for example, atoms, molecules, and large objects and environments made up of them). Surely there is something else that we are not able to perceive with our own sensors and science has not yet discovered. A small part of these vibrations can be perceived by our senses and transformed into images (visual images and color perception, sound images, touch). In a sense, all these images are illusory. For example, color does not exist outside of the observer's consciousness, there are only vibrations of the electromagnetic flow at a certain frequency. When interacting with material objects, our receptors form a nerve impulse, and consciousness already forms olfactory, gustatory and tactile images. As for the illusory-sweet smell of a rose, it does not exist outside the consciousness of the “observer”, there is only a set of molecules of the substance that can evoke a response from our receptors, and then the brain, in response to this irritation, forms an “image” of the fragrance.
Pain does not exist, but only the flow of nerve impulses resulting from, for example, tissue damage. And the sensation of pain is already formed by the brain.
If you dig a little further, there is no light and darkness. Light and darkness are just the presence or absence of a flow of electromagnetic energy at certain frequencies, which we call the visible spectrum and are able to distinguish with our eyes. That's all. If our eyes were tuned to different frequencies, the world would look very different to us.
In short, this is a separate huge topic for unhurried independent reflection. )
I imagine the real world to be a relatively black space filled with energy flows buzzing at all frequencies and vibrating matter. Something that we are able to capture and transform into a “picture” that is actually not so much a reflection of reality as a “clever interface” designed so that we can somehow interact with the “buzzing dark space”.
As an analogy, we can cite a computer game: there is no main character of the game, there are streams of electricity encoded with bits that” buzz ” through conductors and transistors, and interfaces convert these data streams to a picture on the monitor and sound from speakers. And now we can see a beautiful sunset over the jungle on the screen. They certainly exist, but not at all as we see them on the screen.
Well, whether someone wanders invisible to us in this buzzing darkness-the question, of course, is interesting and not fully recognizable.))) -
And whether it is necessary to recognize the “floating” reality at all.” In my opinion, it is enough to see cumulative effects and be able to remove their effect in time ( neutralize ) . For example. I was waiting for the tax authorities to check, but then the pandemic intervened…. The issue is resolved )))
A pandemic, generally a salvation for bankruptcy and all kinds of fraud . And in a safe time, there are also ways to prevent various risks . For example, to interfere with the constitution, raise the retirement age, destroy the oil market, put Khodorkovsky in jail , and there are all sorts of ideas and moves to hide the true meaning of what is happening
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It's simple – there is no answer and that's all, and then they spread some philosophical and mystical nonsense here.
But of the available options, I see only one option-replacing some of the limited sense organs with devices with the widest range of readable information (if you can put it that way at all), then yes, you will be able to “take a closer look” at what the world around you is like. But again, the brain also processes the information it receives in its own way (I'm not talking about the brain's habit of turning on fantasy at any opportunity), so no matter what you do, no matter how hard you try, you will not get true sensations….although of course, at least it will be possible to conduct an experiment with a bunch of unrelated people and find the most similar option to the truth, but this is also not a fact.
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It is unlikely that a person will ever be able to understand this. Just like any other animal. This is because of the very nature of organic life. The simplicity or complexity of the nervous system in any animal (if there is one at all) does not make it easier to work. But rather only adds. And if you connect the brain of a person (or any other animal) to a car, as we wrote above, then this also does not change much. Because perception remains at the cellular level. All reactions in tissues to external stimuli are registered down to the chromosomes and DNA. Such a system will not work with transistors, chips and boards. Even with quantum processors and modules. It's not designed for that. This means that you won't be able to perceive the world 100% without processing it. But, probably, it is possible to approach it. It is worth asking those people who have already had their vision or hearing replaced by mechanical parts. This will also be a biased assessment. But at least it will be slightly different from the one that is given to everyone else, ordinary people from birth.
On the other hand, as soon as AI appears, being integrated into a mechanical body, it will be able to perceive the world 100% without processing. Using sensors. But they haven't even invented such sensors yet. All of them also use processing. For example, converting to binary code.
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A rather lengthy quote on the subject. Andrey Bitov. “Man in the Landscape”
What we live in, what we see, perceive, and comprehend, what we call reality, is also a range beyond which we are just as likely to die as we are to freeze or suffocate. We think that our reality is infinite, only, you see, we have not yet fully understood it; in fact, our reality is the same range, not wider than what we hear or see. We are only alive in this range. And we live only in it, we do not live in reality at all, but only in a layer of reality, which, in fact, if we were able to imagine real relations, is no thicker than a pictorial layer. It is in this oil layer that we live, on which we were drawn. And this painting is beautiful, because what artist wrote it! What An Artist! Leonardo is incomparable to him, like… like… And the comparison with it is incomparable! For us, he drew a picture of life, the structure of which we gradually understand, we also understand in the literal sense… “So we took this plant apart brick by stone, brick by brick…” We are crawling around, crawling along the layer, and we all think that we are penetrating deeper, unable to understand that there, in the depths, is no longer our reality at all, not given to us, not given to us in sensation at all… that the structure of our life also has its own structure, which is by no means located inside our life. Newton's law is not in the apple and Archimedes ' law is not in the bath. In the layer of life drawn for us, there is a device, which is, in turn, a layer of reality, which, in turn, has a device placed not in it, but in one, several, I don't know how many more layers, but again nothing to us, even if we penetrated there, does not explain. There was no such task for us to understand, there was a task for us to live! She was beautiful – God, how beautiful! – implemented. In the incarnation, there is also a plane, not only flesh… Now a thinking man, now an artist… The artist doesn't understand, but reflects, so it's beautiful. That only what was already beautiful can be reflected in it, but if it also comprehends, you see, then, assuming that it goes deep, it goes across the layer, and the layer is narrow, no thicker than oil, and what is behind it?.. Then the ground, then the canvas, the foundation, and then the abyss, the hole, the torn edges, and then the dust, the darkness, the stack with a nail and a rope to hang yourself from, the incompetent signature with a meaningless name… No one knows anything about painting except painters, but believe me, true talent in painting will never go beyond a dumb guess that there is something behind beauty, and a thinking fool will. There, there they are all-Leonardo, El Greco, and Goya, and Van Gogh… all of them went beyond the range, beyond the image, and found nothing but madness beyond those limits… Cezanne… Once again, he was grimacing as if from a toothache.
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is it necessary to see it?
a man sees what is human, a dog sees what is dog.
and it's not a fact that you might really like what you see.
read the same Castaneda with his flyers.
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What does the tip of your nose truly look like when you look at it with one or two eyes? Or maybe when you don't look, but feel? Or maybe when you have a runny nose and you sneeze, and your nose becomes red and looks like a potato? Which nose is your reality?
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Perhaps there is no answer to this question. There is no reality that is not processed by the human mind and senses. Suppose it exists, but you can't describe it here – in words.
To define something, to describe something, to characterize something, you need to use your mind and feelings. And if they're gone, what's left? Probably, there will be something that can not look like something, something that is impossible and there is nothing to process)
What does something look like? To answer this question, you need at least your eyes.
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Without an observer, reality doesn't look like anything. A formula, if you will, regulated by the relations of causal relationships and statistical probabilities. It only “looks” when you look at it or interact with it in some other way.
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No way. Everything begins with a person, and everything ends with a person. He is the only one who “knows” the world around him. Without a human, the world doesn't even exist. To put it bluntly, a person is an apparatus of perception and the world embraces itself. Without a person, the world is “unknown”, imperceptible and uninteresting.
Everything we know about the world around us is absorbed by human senses and processed by human thinking.
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You can only “look” when displaying through some extraneous image receiver, so this question doesn't make sense at all without specifying which receiver it is supposed to be displayed in. It's like wanting an answer to the question ” am I beautiful?” in total emptiness and loneliness. Before you ask questions, at least learn high school textbooks – there will be fewer such questions.
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In my opinion, our reality is like a game on a PC, a set of codes and algorithms. an unimaginable spatial computer that adjusts the game online for each character in your game, you are a cockroach or a fly, each has its own parameters, its own plot (or fate) and to increase your level there is such an upgrade function. after all, many people have friends who see and hear and are physically much stronger and more resilient than most. but there are only a few of them. Such questions are better answered by some modern science fiction writers than by learned men!
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in the beginning there is our personal inner idea of reality, then we see the world through this representation as through a filter, we can say we adjust the world to ourselves in a certain sense, and no one really knows what kind of world it is
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It doesn't look like anything. A glance is an act of consciousness that processes what is seen with its mind and sense organs, and thus forms what it then calls reality. Thus, each view has its own reality, which depends on the viewer, and objectivity, as such, does not exist. There is only the similarity of the viewers themselves, whose realities coincide in many ways, creating the illusion that reality exists one for all.
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It is impossible to answer this question in words. Because our words are what we roughly see around us. That is, there are no words or concepts to describe it. Don Juan described this in the works of Carlos Castaneda. By the way, there you can also find the path to the answer to your question. In short, you need to become a man of knowledge. This creature has access to all knowledge when needed. However, if you become a person of knowledge, this question may no longer interest you.
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For example, if you go out of a room, you will certainly understand that the room exists without you, and it looks like this and that-but these will only be memories of the room, and this mental image of the room will be significantly different from the room you are looking at when you are present in it.
Thus, an objective reality that is not dependent on the senses and is not processed by them will still be the product of your mind (memories in the case of what you saw, or knowledge in the case of embedded data – for example, the internal structure of the Earth or the paleoclimate).
There is no reality that is not processed by the human mind and senses.
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A reality that is not processed by the human mind and senses?
Reality is what it is, whether you see it or not. Waves, fields and emptiness, light and darkness…
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Do you want to see reality ? With our senses, we see only a small part of it, the devices of scientists expand these possibilities somewhat, although we cannot feel this expansion, but we are already able to realize it, but then… There is a way to expand awareness somewhat without resorting to occult practices or shamanic rituals, these are tn big psychedelics, such as LSD, psilocybin, mescaline, but here you need a psychological attitude, otherwise there may be unpleasant consequences, and then there is the Bolivian “Ayahuasca”, there is a more complex method, you need a short fast for about 1 week, but the effect is much stronger and has an impact on the rest of your life, or rather attitude to it. About salt, I can say that salt reality as a segment of general reality refers to the lower manifestations, such as fear, delusions of persecution, and so on. This experience will only give you a sense of animal fear and animal lust. I do not recommend this method because it reflects the lower layers and does not give a general idea. Although as an experience can come in handy, just carefully, salt is addictive like nothing else…and it is better not to do it at all, wait for the end, you will see everything there.
And the blog on the link is more like some kind of fantastic story, well, and salt glitches too, when in the rearview mirror you see some dwarfs in armor and swords getting closer to the car, and every time you look they are getting closer, and you look through the door and there is no one, or someone is standing dark, scary at the window, and you open the door there is no one, only bushes and trees on lawns in the dark of night, or when it seems that you are being watched and you pull out chandeliers and curtains in search of hidden cameras, here you just need to understand how it works, so as not to succumb to fear and not do anything stupid, so before resorting to such experiments, you also need psychological training, otherwise you can leave for durka forever.
And as for the reality of that world, do not even doubt that Gennady Krokhalev photographed them in the 90s
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The story itself is disgusting
I am extremely negative about the concept of the otherworldly, because it is absurd.
The paradoxes of real human cognition are much more interesting. Even if we accept that human consciousness is the result of the influence of the external world on the human brain through the senses, it follows (this conclusion may seem unacceptable to some) that our phenomenal consciousness does not coincide with objective reality in any way. Our perceptions are events in the brain. They are not a copy of reality, but only the result of its influence. Yes, the relationships between different complexes of our sensations reflect the properties of objective reality. Thus, our phenomenal consciousness is information about the external world, a model of the world. But our feelings can never be a correct and even distorted copy of this reality: it's just a stream of events in the brain.
Ernst Mach in his book” Analysis of Sensations ” gives examples of how our sensations do not correspond to the scientific ideas (of his time) about reality. For example, a person's spatial sensations: they are “tied” to the center – the body, visually objects decrease when removed, in addition, visual perception is a two-dimensional projection, etc. All this does not correspond to Euclidean geometry
Or a sense of color or sound. In nature, there are electromagnetic and air waves with different wavelengths. This has nothing to do with the sensations of sound and color.
Developing these ideas, we must come to the conclusion that in general, our entire consciousness does not correspond to the reality “in itself”, which is devoid of any sensory characteristics
It would be possible to dismiss the question because of its internal inconsistency. If” looks”, then for whom? For animals, more or less the same as for humans. But the author most likely meant objective reality as such.
Actually, there are two options. Either the physical world, as it is represented by modern science, or the matrix is a computer simulation. Calculations in a certain processor.
The funny thing is that the true physical world is not fundamentally different from the matrix processor.
In general, the laws of nature in any case are fulfilled one way or another, no matter what the “true world”is.
very interesting question. I will answer as a Buddhist. there are a huge number of versions of what reality is. moreover, there are a huge number of subjective concepts of what reality is. why is that? because the very concept of reality is formed not only by the external environment, but also by the senses. for example the subjective concepts of what is reality are fundamentally different say for example in a flounder in a sparrow and in a person. different sense organs, and correspondingly, the perception of the world is formed in different ways. even creatures with similar senses have a very different reality. let's just say that you have very little idea of what the reality is for, say, a resident of a Brazilian or Indian slum. now directly about your question. I'll answer the question with a question. tell us what characteristics something has that you know absolutely nothing about. and there is no way to know. this is the answer to your question.
We'll never know. There will always be a “description of the world”between us and the world.
“…When we walk through the 'park', the perceived world around us actually exists inside our brain in the form of a picture created by excited neurons. The feeling of a bright blue sky does not come from somewhere above, it is a reaction of the visual cortex of the brain.…
…And the picture of the “park” that we think we are walking through appears inside our brain after processing signals from the retina of the eyes.
Reality is not a lie, as Buddhists believe, and there is nothing mystical or unexpected hidden behind the veil of Maya. Behind the illusion of the park is only a real park, but nevertheless the person sees only the illusion.
The real “park” is somewhere else, out of the picture.
And the real “park” is not like a picture inside our brain. The real “park” is far, far away, and we, sitting in our skull, will never be able to touch it, only imagine how we do it.”
What reality looks like-this is what infinitely human knowledge approaches. This is the limit to which consciousness tends. And you can't find out in advance. It is necessary to go to this and get closer with each step. You can't jump over the learning process. It's like trying to find out what a book is about without reading it.
Reality – it doesn't look like it, it exists. What is reality and what is it? As soon as you start imagining ( imagining), it will be distorted, because imagination is the processing of the mind.
It is beyond the mind and senses, so life in reality begins when you step over the boundaries.
Such a reality is objective,i.e. independent of the sensuously concrete perception of its form and essence.Secondly, it is concrete both in itself and in relation to another reality as for itself.For the human mind and sense organs, before interacting with it, it exists,on the contrary, as an absolutely abstract being.What is the question is the answer.
.. just like in the reality of the subtle world, where physical reality is not processed, but acts as an illusion of physical reality, throughout the entire session, let's say a dream ..
.. just like in the reality of the subtle world, where physical reality is not processed, but acts as an illusion of physical reality, throughout the entire session, let's say a dream ..
You probably wanted to ask ,” what is reality that is not processed by the human mind and senses?” The sense organs are a kind of channels of information coming from reality to the human brain. Therefore, we can rephrase the question as ” does a person receive complete information about objective reality with the help of their senses and mind?” The correct answer is that a person receives certain information about reality with the help of their senses, but this information is not complete and partially distorted. With the help of reason, practice, and other channels of information, a person corrects this information and, in the historical perspective, gets an increasingly adequate representation of reality in his mind. That is, it is thus approaching a truer and truer understanding of reality. But this does not mean that the mind and senses only distort the true understanding of reality. On the contrary, it is through these channels that true understanding is formed. There are simply no other channels.
I believe the answer to this question will be processed by the human mind. It is impossible to find the answer in “your head”, because there is simply no such experience, we have not tried this “reality”without processing it with our senses.
Here the question breaks down into two questions. 1) what is objective reality 2) what sensations this reality causes in the feelings and ideas of a person. The correct answer to the first question is that this reality and its characteristics (for example, the frequency of light waves) do not depend on the person. The correct answer to the second question is that different people may have different feelings and ideas about reality. There are also erroneous ideas and feelings of a person, processed by the mind. But they can and do give a true picture of objective reality. Another thing is that the senses and the mind do not give a complete picture of reality. In addition to the known ones, reality has many other characteristics and properties that are still unknown. However, in its knowledge, humanity expands and deepens the correct ideas about reality.
True reality “looks” like True, because it isThe truth.
But the paradox is thatTruth it has no forms, because it is outside the material reality. The paradox.
Paradox is the key word in the definitionTruths of Reality.
That is, reality is like a void, which each being “perceives”, inventing its own subjective form for this reality.
There is a very subtle point … Just as there is no Creation other than the Creator, so there is no “objective” reality outside of its relation to the observer / doer. Reality and Your Mind are not really Two – they are One.
…We can, of course, intellectually assume the existence of some absolute raelnost, about which it is impossible to express any judgment, any word simply because of the condition you set. Then the question comes to a logical dead end….
If we turn to the Creation myths, there was Nothing before.
Then this Nothingness wanted to know itself and created worlds.
But as we know, the Whole or God, expanding and creating a variety of forms and variants, knows itself through all of them. The smallest speck of dust is a part, if you will, of the hologram of the Whole, the Creator. And the Creator does not divide himself into the Creator and the created. Therefore, it is called the Unified One.
But our deep, well-bred habit of thinking of ourselves as beings separate from the Whole plunges us into the duality of the mind, which most successfully practices subject-object relations and relations of opposites.
Such deep-rooted manifestations of the dualistic mind model are matter and consciousness, good and evil, due and existent, etc.
But the logical mind is not commensurate with reality – it can only reflect reality in a certain globally reducing projection, and therefore cannot be an adequate tool for answering your question.
The unity of Creation and Creator, or, what is the same thing, Reality and Reason, is the answer just beyond the logical mind.
…”“A reality not processed by the human mind Ha! And where did the concept of reality come from? From the human mind! Everything we talk about is a concept born of the human mind. It is a person who identifies something in the world and connects a certain concept with it. Even “reality” itself is just a concept by which the mind tries to isolate something in the world for further manipulation. In the world itself, this mind-generated contraption with which the concept of “reality” is associated does not exist. From the word “in general”. It is the purest product of the human mind. Draw conclusions!
The question then is, what is the World then? So far, the answer is that it is something that we perceive in our consciousness and try to somehow organize through the creation and use of concepts. For example, such as “reality”.
No way. And at the same time, whatever.
Without the senses, we would know nothing about reality, which is comparable to its absence, with non-existence. On the other hand, to perceive the whole of reality, it would require a tactile apparatus that would be comparable to reality itself. Neither is REALISTIC. Therefore, we observe a more or less given reality, and only through the senses. We can expand our vision with technical improvements such as radio-gamma or UV telescopes. But we transfer the visible images to a convenient spectrum for the eye. Of course, there is still a lot of unseen, and it will always remain.
An interesting question statement, given that the truth is unknowable, it is easier for you to ask this question to a chameleon or a turtle of some kind. Think for yourself what is the truth?
Yes, indeed, our body cannot see the real world. Our eyes are a collecting lens. therefore, we do not see the real light of our world. The real light of our world is this. If you get up before the sun rises and look around. This is the real illumination of our world. This illumination is independent of the sun. It's far away. In reality, just somewhere weighs a yellow ball and all. But of course, the ultraviolet and infrared radiation of the sun, which brings heat, also affects all living things. But the creatures are informational and energetic. And the illumination of our world depends on the information illumination of the planet. and it looks like just before dawn. And now the 2nd coming of Christ will be caused by a change in this information illumination of the planet. the illumination will change as if the sun has risen. Once. the switch was turned on. And get it. Many living things will not be able to stay here and many people will die, including. Therefore, there will be troubles, famine, pestilence, fires, etc. The waters will be poisoned by cadaverous poison. so neither food nor water, nor drink, nor eat, will be impossible. this is why God's teachings are given, so that people can fulfill them in order to survive
We don't know. And any explanation will be unsatisfactory. Any information comes to us either through the senses or through the mind, therefore, any explanation of this issue will be limited to these areas of knowledge. If we assume that true reality goes beyond these limits, then we cannot explain what it looks like. But this is a question for philosophy and psychology, not physics.
This question is not correct by definition due to the fact that any description of reality will still come to us only as a reflection through our senses and analyzed by the mind.
You can answer this question by being without the body and its sense organs and mind, i.e. the soul. How does what controls our body accept this reality? The answer is this. 🙂
Studying all the properties of 3D paintings, I became convinced that our vision is designed in such a way that it sees our world around us not as it really is. In fact, we see objects around us in the way that our brain provides us, based on the results of pre-processing information coming to it from the nerve endings of the eyes, in the form of weak electrical impulses that occur as a result of photons of light hitting the photoreceptors of the eyes.After the initial processing of the data, the brain creates an image based on it, which is completely different from the object. What we “see” is an image artificially constructed by the brain based on signals and their processing. This artificial nature of vision is the cause of optical illusions. Our brain continuously constructs images as it thinks they should be,not as our eyes see them. To prove this, I created a small picture (top picture) consisting of multi-colored rings of different diameters and arranged horizontally eccentrically relative to each other.Then I duplicated this picture and placed it next to the original, having previously rotated it horizontally by 180°. It turned out to be a paired picture, the two halves of which are located symmetrically horizontally (figure below).To begin with, let's put these pictures on top of each other not by sight, but by actually combining them with each other. As a result, we will get a drawing (the third one from the top), in which only the blue rings coincided, and the images of the other rings did not coincide with each other due to their eccentricity. Now try to combine both images with your eyes. You will make sure that the resulting images are not at all similar to the third picture. Unlike the real method of addition, images folded by the eyes not only contribute to the complete coincidence of single-color rings, but also contribute to the generation of a virtual three-dimensional image(VOI) by the picture. With our eyes, we can add both images together in two ways, resulting in either -a 3D picture (the depth is directed inwards from the eyes) or + a 3D picture (the depth is directed towards the eyes). I specifically arranged the components of the paired picture so that-3D virtual volume space is generated with a cross-viewing method, and +3D virtual volume space is generated with a parallel viewing method. By flipping the components of the paired picture 180°, we can flip the generated volume spaces by one revolution.
That is, what reality looks like without an observer. That's when you fall asleep and you don't dream of anything, and it looks like reality is not processed by the human brain. Or what did the world look like before you were born and realized it?
Reality that is not processed by the senses and the mind can not see itself clearly. Processed by non-human ch. and R. it obviously looks like something of its own figuratively.
if you try to answer, then mathematics is true because it is a formal language that is able to describe things outside of human perception, and in general relativity means what? To see what you don't see or what else, we don't know what kind of biological improvements were made with a person in the end, of course, everything will come down to complex computations in fact, people work for example with nuclear decay people know there is a model and calculations in fact everything, they do not when they do not see particles as well as for example, we see light although this is also a particle but we see the final component if we talk about how to understand the meaning of this all then it is not possible at all, the conclusion is to know the true reality is impossible, and if you ask the question for example who can see someone may think of god but I think that he most likely sees it in a mathematical sense but not as in another
Each person has an individual vision of reality. This is a “thing in itself”, like a sense of taste, a measure of education or perception of music, etc. No matter how much we argue, everyone will remain in their own opinion. When we ask about the superhuman concept of reality , it is paradoxical, because we cannot imagine what is beyond our understanding. To do this, you need to rise ABOVE human thinking. No religion will give an answer, because we analyze any religious concept through the prism of human consciousness. So, – “give Caesar what is Caesar's” and accept that it is not possible to find out the answer.
https://habr.com/ru/post/468653/ – an interesting post in the topic. It turns out that there is no image in the form of a set of pixels that the brain observes, at least in terms of chroma. The newborn does not see exactly, although it looks, because it has not learned to scan the image for recognition by micro-movements of the gaze (saccades). The same applies to the audio channel. The cochlea fibers excite impulses from resonant vibrations (some analog of the spectrum (mp3 format) is a gammaton), even the ideal sound in it is smeared over the frequency range. The bird's audio channel is tuned to a specific chirp – it probably doesn't hear it the way we do. The nervous system is part of the perception process, and a single perfect HDR image is unlikely to exist. This is “contra”. At the same time, not only people, but also living beings who do not talk about the world as an invention of the brain, somehow measure their behavior with its objective picture. Physicists talk about the unimaginable reality of the microcosm (particle-wave). We are already used to this and use it (tunnel effect in semiconductors). The most appropriate point of view to this is AND.Kant – “the thing in itself”. Of course, it exists, but it is incomprehensible in the absolute (see above-true)
People are not able to imagine reality fully as it is. Because man himself is only a tiny part of the universe. Our default vision is subjective, partial, and fragmented. So, in answer to your question, I can only repeat one old expression: God only knows …