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  1. And why do I need something after death, when I want it now? I live easily and at ease, because there is no regime of deferred life, that they say now I will suffer, suffer, and then I will be rewarded a hundredfold. And I do not suffer, and I do not suffer, I live for myself, enjoying the little things, I do not expect anything, I do not harbor empty illusions.

    And the whole ficus is that there is nothing after death. Including my consciousness, so that I myself will no longer care that I am dead – I will not be aware of it. But now there is no point in morally raping yourself, building a victim out of yourself-you just take it and live now. I am my own destiny and justice.

  2. The only thing that all this refers to is the end to death. But during life, we are not deprived of anything. Personally, I don't need fate or God to do something, to enjoy certain things, and just to live in the end. If I fail, I don't blame fate. Circumstances can certainly be blamed, but not fate. In general, I just try the same thing again or try something else.

    “as you have the strength
    to live”Да Yes, you don't need any strength to live. There is no choice given the fact that life is one and you will not have any other. And you either try to live this one life as well as possible or you let everything go downhill. The second option is naturally not an option.

    “how do you work and do something?”
    �I take it and do it. Because I want to or because there is a need for such a thing. Why is it so hard to understand? Well, the atheist does not need any higher intelligences or angels to just go and do what he wants or needs.

    And if there was a fate, then everything would only be more complicated. Well, the picture would be like this: You are trying to do something and influence something, but all this is useless. That is, the meaning of everything is lost. Everything is already predetermined. And in this case, I would ask: How do you have the strength to live with fate? And in this regard, the same justice is interesting. Is it fair that fate decides everything? Is fate fair? Well, for example, a good man lived and died in the prime of life. What is the justice here?

  3. If you live only for yourself, then it's probably hard. But if you realize that you are a part of the humanity that was before you and will be after you, then it is not so sad. All concepts-justice, love, work, etc. – are developed by humanity. And if you bring some benefit to humanity in your life, then you have not lived in vain.

  4. Very hard and painful. I had to come up with a religion as delusional, implausible, illogical, unfair, cruel, contrary to science and common sense as the one I believed in. If they'd come up with a better religion, I might have continued to believe in myself calmly and not blow my nose.

  5. How does a self-interested person work, knowing that he works for the benefit of other people and he is not owed anything for it?
    How does a socially oriented person do this?
    … you can't explain this to a mercenary…

  6. Atheists simply do not have that acute need for justice, there is no acute need for everything to be meaningful. They are completely satisfied with the idea that there is nothing but absolute and complete indifference to everything.

    How do atheists manage to work and do something? Just like robots. The robot doesn't have to worry about breaking down sooner or later. The robot simply functions as it is written in the program, within its design capabilities. And the atheist, in fact, works and does something exactly like a robot, simply following the programs that were loaded into it from our genes, society, the Internet – in short, from the outside. An atheist does not generate programs; all his actions or omissions are the result of a function of many variables – from external influences and the internal state of the system.

  7. I met 3 main positions of atheists.

    1. Hedonism-maximizing the pleasure function (who is at what level of the Maslow pyramid) from the moment of birth to the moment of death.

    2. Science will achieve, perhaps soon, immortality, but for now we will freeze, until the moment when science can unfreeze.

    3. The most advanced option. Science will find a way to revive everyone and make it possible to live forever. The solution to the problem of boredom in eternity is questionable. It is partly interrupted by the question of the finiteness of the universe.

    Option 2, 3 is based on faith. Option 1 runs away from the question: “Why does a monkey need a philosopher's brain with thoughts about eternity and the meaning of life and death?”.

  8. For me, knowledge is preferable to ignorance, and knowledge corresponding to reality is preferable to false knowledge. In my opinion, the way of life of a believer is the life of a drug addict. Yes, he experiences some kind of “high” and soars in colorful illusions, but in real life he is a pathetic sight. Yes, a sober lifestyle is somewhat more difficult, but you at least adequately perceive reality. Actually, this is freedom, and it is better than slavery. A slave can afford to be weak by relying on his master. A free man must be strong. He can go his own way, and not in the same herd with the drugged ones. Life is meaningless and cruel, but it is better to live it with your eyes open.

  9. Unconsciously living is like a moth flying towards the light. The flight itself, the memory of this flight in other moths, and the meaning of this flight will be repeated. Until the question arises-what am I doing here, what is all this for? From this moment, the real “adventure” begins.

  10. Justice must be sought in life, not after death. The fate after death is similar for everyone-coffin-grave or crematorium-urn-columbarium. Although the Nenets used to just give dead Arctic foxes to eat. Well, these are already particulars. That's how we work. There are children who need to be raised, fed, raised (as atheists), and helped when they become adults. There are friends, it's nice to communicate with them, sometimes they also need help, and I hope that they will help me too, if necessary . There are old parents – you also need to take care of them, there is, sorry, for the pathos-the Motherland. So there is no time to sit idle like believers, waiting for “posthumous justice” and being scared to the point of wet underpants of “fate after death”.

  11. And how do we have the courage to live knowing that we weren't there before we were born? ABSOLUTELY! Nowhere and never?

    Similarly, after death. I won't be anywhere, ever. And there will be no way for me to assess the fact of my absence.

    Death is not terrible just by the complete absence of life and the very awareness of death.

    The disease is terrible. Terrible pains and torments… Helplessness and dependence on other people are terrible. It's scary to become a burden to your loved ones. But how can death be as terrible as non-existence?!

    We have only one life! Therefore, this is the only chance to achieve a better fate and justice! We will have no other life for justice and retribution! Have time to make the world a better place in your lifetime! Better for yourself and all other people in the world!

    If you have achieved at least a little in this, then it is not a shame to live, and it is not terrible to die!

  12. Well, I'm an atheist. And I know for a fact that I wasn't there before I was born. It just wasn't there, and that's it. I don't believe in any “past lives”, and I don't remember any events from there. If anyone lived before me, it wasn't me. Well, there is no reason to identify with someone else who lived before me. Some events were happening, some people were living, and I just wasn't there. Now, just like that, I won't be here after I die. I'm not happy with that? Well, yes – a bit of a pity, of course. But by and large, it's no more a pity than the fact that I missed something while I was away. I didn't see any mammoths, dinosaurs, or saber-toothed tigers… But what can I do? We'll have to do without these dinosaurs somehow. This is life. And it must be lived while it is there. And do not miss every moment, do not put it off for later, and do not rely on any “afterlife”. And not to exchange a single moment of this life for any service to any idols, or for prayer vigils, or for seclusion…

  13. Absolutely calm. No problem at all. Knowing perfectly well that there will be nothing after death, we try to maximize our time on earth, to realize all the talents and abilities allowed to us by nature. And we also try to achieve justice in our lifetime.

  14. The difference is that religion offers the concept of an afterlife in order to make a person responsible for the quality of their life. That is, live correctly and after a while, after death, you will receive dividends. But there is another concept in which a person is aware and lives in the present moment, here and now, without thinking about death. He simply accepts death as a part of life, its logical ending. Therefore, disputes about concepts will not lead to a common opinion, because they, concepts, are originally intended not to find the truth, but to search for it through living in this particular system. Roughly speaking, some people like winter, others like summer – there is no truth in this, but only personal beliefs and motives.

  15. Yuma's Giliotina was still there. Existence does not imply commitment.
    for example, Satanists believe that there is a God, but they act completely differently from Christians.
    This is an example.
    Just like everyone else, you don't think 100% of the time only about God, for sure.
    I personally enjoy working hard.
    When you build something and you see that people need your work, the thought that everything disappears in vain like dust in the wind.
    My opinion is that as long as there are at least two people in this world with whom I am connected by feelings , it doesn't matter to me whether I was created, who created me , what happens after death, whether the universe is finite, whether ideology is needed, and whether being exists.
    There is me and a small circle of my relatives, we need each other.
    That's why we don't need anyone but ourselves.
    That's all.

  16. Humanity is divided into two groups, one-works, the other-steals.

    In both cases, the author considers himself one of them.

    Those who work need more strength, but the question is for those who steal, and they know what awaits them after death…

  17. Atheists are just the easiest. If there is no afterlife, then there is nothing to be afraid of. You can't be afraid of emptiness. “There's no point in fearing death, because as long as I'm alive, there's no death. And when she comes, I'll be gone.”

  18. Precisely because there is nothing after death, you need to live now, create both fate and justice with your own hands.

    That's why we work hard and well.

  19. Enough strength, because the instincts of self-preservation and Maslow's pyramid work. They naturally determine that a person will a) want to live and not want to die, and b) will always want something (material or non-material). That's all. Talking about the meaning of life, in my opinion, is rather meaningless, because it amounts to (a) attempts to avoid the fear of death by assuming the existence of super-beings, (b) attempts to propostulate a certain group of needs that are individually considered important, universally important, and (c) unwillingness to realize that from the point of view of the individual, existence has no higher meaning at all. There is a sense of species (species diversity and maintenance of population size), anthropogenic (maintenance and development of human culture) and global-philosophical (man as so far the highest stage of matter development on Earth (intelligent organic life).

  20. I have heard that a conversation with God is when a person sneezes, that is, God responds to a sneeze without being afraid of our thoughts that arise in other situations.

    We argue whether there is a God or not, and he expects us to think the right thoughts and the only thing that can hear from us is choh.

  21. Believers, why do you attribute to us “knowledge” that we do not recognize? “There is nothing after death”? And after the death of a person, do not other living people inherit the deeds done by the deceased? Demian Bedny passed away in 1945, but doesn't he talk to the reader when the latter opens a book of poems by the late poet? And what was the name of the Neanderthal (or maybe Cro-Magnon, or maybe Denisovan) who guessed to tie a stone to a stick? we don't know his name, maybe he didn't have a name, but the whole world is still hammering away! And this is called “nothing at all”?

  22. My understanding of two points of view:
    1. Religious people are happier because they know what to do and don't look for answers to their questions, and they have already been answered a long time ago.
    2. Atheists realize that the answers in religion are illogical and stupid. Even if they are unhappy they will not turn to religion because they want the truth and not an idea imposed by people from the past. Some are not afraid of such things as death in general, some have accepted and some find their answers and can live quite happily.
    As I think, neither the first nor the second is a mistake. As long as you're happy, you're fine.
    The main thing is not to be fanatical in both cases.

  23. You're talking about life!!! Or maybe about a fantasy, heavenly grandeur. Life has nothing to do with any God and fantasies about the existence of God. A believer will die in agony, because he will judge himself on his deathbed. An atheist who believes in himself will die with relief.

  24. Aha! So you admit that the belief in God and his afterlife arises from the fear of death?!

    There are, of course, fans who claim that their driving force is Love. Let them talk. That's why they're fans. But not everyone is like that. And the fans used to start out out of fear.

    About the strength for life. A person is initially alive, which means he lives. And it does not depend on his knowledge – whether he will die or not. But the nervous system is so organized that thoughts can positively or negatively affect the bio-balance of the body. Knowing this, you can understand that you should try to delve less into the analysis of the fact that after death your non-existence will be infinite. Think-don't think, worry-don't worry, and this question is unsolvable. And we should not waste time on this useless activity, but enjoy the miracle that we are aware of ourselves in this world, do what we want and what is available, and enjoy this opportunity.

    You won't be able to rebuild yourself right away. It may take months or years. This is a kind of training in controlling your thoughts.

    Here I explain to you and understand that these are all words, that in life not everything is so simple… Well, so in the Bible-also words.

    And if you like them, if you like them, then you will want to accept them. But if you like the words in the Bible, it doesn't mean that everything is as the Bible says.

  25. And we, the soulless, have the strength, time and money just faith in God takes away. And atheism gets rid of this. And what is your purpose in asking and why are you getting involved in a topic that doesn't concern you? I don't go to your church and promote atheism, do I? Yes, liars-believers go out of their way to convert to their worldview ( they doubt it themselves). Churches are being built, but what's the use ? The number of parishioners has decreased by an order of magnitude compared to the 90s. More flock – more money from the people and the state, etc. on our own taxes (it is enough to recall the permission of the church from the state for the exciseless sale of alcohol and tobacco, money for the construction of churches, etc. – after all, for the authorities, the church is primarily the electorate )

  26. Well, if there is no justice in life, then why should I, having got used to it, be afraid of it after death?

    In general, the question is some kind … provocative. don't you think so?

    Go to a normal happy person and start feeling sorry for him violently: beeeeeeedny, neschaaastny, how bad you feel… It's ugly somehow, isn't it?

  27. I just live here and now, in my own pleasure, without thinking about what will happen after my death…

    if there is something there, then let it be, but I will deal with this issue when it comes…

    and in general, for me to believe in God is just stupid and meaningless

  28. There is a brain that is responsible for everything, but it is not clear HOW it works. “The meaning of life” and it is clear that love is a universal law that will help the brain not to rush. And there's more

    meditation, which, if you learn to use it correctly, you can calm the brain down, so to speak. The task is “simple”: you need to be in the present moment and then there will be a “miracle” – all the answers. (Tipo: the world is chaos, but och interesting! ☺ ️ ) well, remember about Jobs: “You need to believe in something.”

  29. learn Buddhism and don't bother. Just don't get into the swamp-isms from Buddhism. The original philosophy is based on rebirth – karma – samsara-the illusory nature of the world.

  30. And atheism doesn't necessarily mean that. In general, there is no unambiguous worldview called “atheism”. Within the framework of the atheistic understanding of the philosophy of N. Fedorov's “Common Cause”, everything is there, after death.

  31. I'm not an atheist, but I'm not a believer either. And how do you, believers, manage NOT to live at all, waiting for paradise later? Atheists, according to this logic, although they live here now, enjoying what is given, do not think about tomorrow, or rather, a normal person thinks, without putting an end to the fact that something can be done with the future. But believers are small children under the table, who believe in the eternity of the parent who brings food under the table, experiencing fear and suffering.

    Science is also a drug, but even though it is tied to the here and now, but religion is a drug of flight. Yes, figs will change his mind, and he will die blissfully believing in the future, which will NOT be for such a person, because HERE you need to start living, Make Life with your own hands and feet, then there will BE NO DEATH,

  32. The fact of the matter is that they just don't have the strength to live. You will look at the comments and questions of “atheists”, on the minus side of normal answers about the meaning of life. I sincerely sympathize with such people. Meaninglessness, apathy, depression, hopelessness, anger at the world – a direct natural consequence of atheism, their constant companions. Most importantly, such people do not connect their negative psychophysical state with their worldview, do not understand a direct cause-and-effect relationship. As they say, “you will not wish the enemy” such a life, but this is their choice. Just in case, I'm not talking about blind faith in God, the church, or religion. I am not a blind believer, I am a knower and feel the difference.

  33. Probably, this knowledge also stimulates the opportunity to hit all the hardships, experience the sweetness of various sins, completely spoil karma, realizing that in the end for all these pranks you are not threatened with anything)))).

  34. It is the realization that there is nothing after death that fills my life with meaning and gives me the strength to continue living. When you understand that life is one, and there is no predetermined meaning in it, then you can come up with this meaning yourself and live your life the way you want. And there is no worry about death, because it is just a cessation of existence. I will never be able to feel and understand its consequences.

  35. I know many people who have not studied the Bible or the Koran,but they are quite worthy people,The main thing is to live with purity of thoughts, kindness in the heart, to be in harmony with yourself.And the same people are attracted around them.

  36. Not only will it be enough, but it will also make you cherish and treat every second you live on this Earth with much more reverence. Moreover, to appreciate other people's lives to a greater extent, too. Life becomes the greatest value and the whole universe.

    Justice is within us.

    Fate is an Injustice in its purest form.

  37. The question can only be raised by a narrow-minded believer. For his religion is a brac-free perception and understanding of his primitive world. Living in fear of their god and, as a result, forced “good” deeds, hypocritical “repentance” in unseemly deeds, visiting religious buildings with a humble look and endless prayers asking for handouts from God because his life is miserable, and he deserves more. He is terrified of frying pans in hell and happy with blissful oligophrenes in paradise. Denial of knowledge of the world and science. And who told you that normal atheists have nothing after death, but you can't explain what it can be and how. Your lot is temples, censers, bows, icons, paradise… I have a counter-question for believers: why does your creator need to be worshiped and worshiped?..Can't a person be human without it, or is the “creator” not self-sufficient and requires sacrifices? And all the wars and all the evils in history are your religions. Better off without you…

  38. Great. Perfectly aware of yourself. I regret that I was born into a fanatically religious family. According to statistics, in general, atheists act more wisely than believers, which means they take better care of themselves, knowing that life is finite. Medicine is developing rapidly, and the life of centenarians is about 120 years. We'll still have time to be sad and think about the meaning of life, no?

  39. Although I am an Agnostic, I really want to be wrong about the fact that nothing awaits us after death.
    Well, as it is, every person after a natural death will see their own paradise or hell.
    Before death, the body produces Melatonin (harmony of sleep) in a very large amount, so that we will go to our last sleep for an eternity, well, the person will see what he wants to see. The believer, of course, will believe that he will go to paradise, he wants to see paradise and he will see it, but in his own way.

  40. On the contrary, it just gives you the strength to live, gives you a sense of the value of life, both your own and someone else's. And this also creates a desire to make this world a better place. If the world was already ordered, everything would be fair and would happen according to the planned scenario, called fate, it would be banal boring to live, and this is how you can organize this chaos. And since the ideal is not achievable, there will always be something to do. And you can not do all this, because fate, if it is understood as a combination of circumstances, still exists, and it presents both pleasant and unpleasant surprises. So it won't be boring for sure).

  41. In other words, what is the meaning of an atheist's life? After all, it is the meaning that motivates actions. It doesn't really matter if you're an atheist or not. You are first and foremost a human being. Man is an animal, social, intelligent, talkative, and capable of labor. The keyword is public. Because a person becomes a person only in society. Therefore, the meaning of a person's life is to benefit society. If you have brought benefits , you will live in the memory of society even after your death. This is the motivation.

  42. Perhaps someone will find my thoughts on this issue interesting, so I'll leave them here. If you are going to read it, please read it to the end.

    Any living creature has an instinctive fear of death, so it happened thanks to evolution. A person, when he gained intelligence, tried to explain what was happening around him, but he was faced with the fact that he could not explain anything in the language of arguments and evidence. Thus, ancient beliefs began to form, as they perfectly solved the problem of dissatisfaction with the human need to understand the environment and himself. Then there were modern religions with expanded, all-inclusive views of the world, and with codes of moral laws necessary to control people. I may be wrong in some places, but my attitude to religion as an atheist should be clear.

    And now it is more subjective and closer to the question. Why don't we treat our own death like the death of another person? Human society has reached such a level of organization that the death of an individual usually means nothing to everyone as a whole. This may not be entirely successful, but it can still be compared to the structure of the human body, where every day a huge number of cells sacrifice themselves for the benefit of others. Thanks to such self-sacrifice, such a highly organized life as people became possible. Have you noticed that over the course of history, the influence of an individual has become less and less compared to the influence of all people at the same time-society, taking the example of the history of Europe?

    By taking the time to reflect in this way, you can rethink the value of your own life in relation to the life of another person. If one of us dies, the rest of us will continue to live. For example, probably many people are sad that they will never know what will happen in the distant future or, perhaps, even in the near future. What is the point of being sad if our descendants will experience similar emotions for us that we would feel if we were in the future? Here I draw an analogy with my own life and the life of another person.

    From our experiences and thoughts separately, an emotional picture of society as a whole is formed, just as on screens whole images are formed from pixels. I think that people need to learn to associate themselves at least partially with this image, and not with its small part, then it will become easier for everyone to live. What is it about your death when the whole you were in lives on?

    And even with such a mess in my head, I did not stop experiencing animal fear at the proximity of death, it just became easier for me to put up with it.

  43. The main thing is not what will happen after, the main thing is what is in life. Because after there will be nothing as there was nothing before. The main thing is what you have here and now and what you can achieve. The main thing that you can do is to live a happy and decent life. The main thing that you can do to help your loved ones now is to make the world fair and kind in the here and now.

    Why these fantasies about some kind of afterlife? You can flatter yourself with hopes about some kind of afterlife that will happen if you fulfill the will of a fictional deity, or you can live in reality-knowing that what you do benefits you and your loved ones, the surrounding society – that it is you who can improve the environment and make the world a little better for our common survival.

    In fact, religion takes human characteristics from a person and assigns them to a deity-God is love, God is justice. If you remove God , you will see that it is not God who is love, but you can love, it is not God who is justice and wisdom , but you can be just and wise, and for this you do not need God.

    People who believe in the afterlife forget that the most important thing in life is survival – it is the basic law of evolution that we all obey and we as a species are responsible to life – whether we are able to survive or not. Are we humans capable of spreading life to others in space-are we worthy of living or not?

  44. Religious people have one thing on their mind – to raise karma. All because of the lack of logical thinking, dried up their brains with dogmas and fairy tales. You probably do not know the desire to leave behind not only memories, but also at least – a genetic trace, as a maximum – the benefit of humanity. We are not egoists – we don't think only about our afterlife:)

  45. I knew such an atheist to the bone, never believes in anything except what he sees, a very callous person and loves only himself, I think it's enough for him to love himself, instead of religions and people.

  46. It is not necessary to believe in something supernatural in order to fill life with meaning ,but they find strength in the work of their whole life, namely in their vocation.

    Happy and successful life, which I wish you as well

  47. The meaning of human life is to have the main idea, cat. inspiring. do everything as best as possible. develop and learn new things. be loyal. do to others as you want them to do to you.

    Added: the meaning of life : to live for what you would be willing to die for.

  48. If you don't have the energy to do something, it's not a question of whether you believe in God or not, but more of whether you are depressed. You don't need faith in Santa Claus to go to the store, do you?

  49. I would put the question differently: How can you not be afraid to lead such an irresponsible lifestyle ??? And most importantly, you are not bored you do not want to ask like Faust “I'm bored imp”??? After all, with a demon is not just boring and monotonous, but also dangerous …

  50. Believers whose beliefs are based on the Holy Scriptures also do not believe that there is anything after death. However, they have the strength to live, and keep the joy. Why? Death is not natural for a person, the fear of the unknown takes its toll, and people tend to believe in the continuation of life even after death. Therefore, in order to be under no illusions, we need to know God's point of view on life and death. According to the Holy Scriptures, the Word of God, life is a gift from God, and death is the absence of this gift.

    “…for sin is death, but the gift of God is life … ” (Rom. 6: 23)

    And the Bible is consistent with science with what happens after death. According to the Holy Scriptures, the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing:

    “The living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing …” (Eccl. 9: 5)

    The dead don't know anything because they don't have thinking. What was before birth, then after death. A dead person does not continue to live somewhere else, and does not suffer in hell, but he is in an unconscious state. For this reason, the Bible encourages you to do what you can during your lifetime, since after death there is no knowledge, wisdom, or deeds.:

    “Whatever your hand can do, do with all your might; for in the grave where you are going, there is no work, no meditation, no knowledge, no wisdom” (Ecclesiastes 9: 10).

    Jesus also compared death to sleep:

    “After he had said this, he said to them,' Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep, but I am going to wake him up. His disciples said, ” Lord! if he falls asleep, he will recover. Jesus was talking about his death, and they thought He was talking about an ordinary dream. Then Jesus said plainly to them, “Lazarus is dead” (John 11: 11-14).

    The dead do not know anything, and are in a state of sleep. When we sleep, we don't know what's going on around us. The state of a dead person is similar to that of a dead animal. The Bible says:

    “for the fate of the sons of men and the fate of the animals is the same: as they die, so do these also, and all have one breath, and man has no advantage over the cattle, for all is vanity! All things go to one place: all things are made of dust, and all things will return to dust” (Ecclesiastes 3: 19,20).

    Thus, the Bible does not support the doctrine of an afterlife. However, according to the Holy Scriptures, there will be a resurrection of the dead:

    “having hope in God that there will be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and of the unrighteous, which they also expect.”24:15)

    According to the justice of God, under certain conditions, God will raise up even the unrighteous. What is the resurrection of the dead? Where will it happen and how? The answer can be found in the Bible.

  51. In my humble opinion, Atheism is also, albeit a little strange, but a religion, and to my slight regret, I am not religious …

    No matter how the world works, I am responsible for my own life and for my own conscience .

    As for Faith, I believe in People and I think that this is the most useful and honest faith . (and yes, in my opinion, Faith and religion are VERY different things )

  52. I realize that I am incredibly lucky to become a being who can think and know the universe, and that is enough for me. It's just a beautiful moment to enjoy. In addition, the realization of the self-evident truth that there is no super-being and, in principle, cannot be, helps to mobilize one's own forces, since there is no one to rely on but oneself.

    And as for justice, there has never been one on earth. As for the hope of justice in the afterlife, it turns people into, excuse me, patience, there is nothing good in it.

  53. This is exactly what believers are afraid of. And suddenly you believed in something wrong, and suddenly you lived wrong and then you will be a baobab tree for 1000 years or burn forever in hell. But an atheist has nothing to fear – ” as long as we are alive, there is no death

    and when death comes we won't be here”

  54. I live well , I don't see any problems. What is the point of living and thinking about how you will die ? You will die and die , you must live right here and now, enjoy every moment, otherwise there will be nothing to remember . And even if you die and this is the end , it doesn't matter, the main thing is that at least something remains after you so that at the end you realize that you did not live in vain.

  55. If you think about this topic, then you will not want to live. In general, I remember one parable : the caterpillar asked the centipede in what sequence it moves its legs when walking. She thought about it in such a way that in the end she still stands still. So it is here – you need to live here and now, without thinking about what will happen there. That's when it will be-then we'll figure it out

  56. Yes, in fact, many atheists are not tempted by the very idea of a Christian paradise, in which you will be forever imprisoned with righteous grandmothers and monks who have lived all their lives in cells, about them I basically do not understand what kind of paradise they need if they are satisfied with living in a small room without adventures and joys of life, reading Hebrew mythology day by day and worshipping..unlike believers I come from scientific sources know that consist of substances vzorvalsya stars and I result of the evolution of billions of years of space, and then the animal world, the CLC integral part, I know that this universe is billions of years ahead and still do not know what will further the evolution of our world, which we're not going anywhere, who knows himself through us.

  57. Yes, no one thinks about death, only passing philosophical reflections, if only. A person is so arranged that he adapts to any paradigm of existence, from this so many opinions and ways of life of people in general. If you think that after life there is eternal darkness. Then you don't think about it very much, you don't get hung up on it and get depressed. Darkness and darkness what will you do about it? “Nothing. Whether there is a chance of not dying – No. All the question is closed.

    In general, every atheist has the idea that death will free you from all your worries and worries. But then comes the sobering “Life may be bad, but it's still better.”

    Probably hard for believers who have become atheists who have destroyed the paradigm of eternal life in themselves, yes, there is a large field for depression to unfold on it.

  58. Because I value my life and the lives of people close to me. I enjoy life, I don't think things like, “Okay, but when I die, I'll go to heaven and they'll just die.” No, if I don't like some shit in life, then I fix it, I get pleasure from life, I live this life, the only one. I don't need to believe in God and rely on him. As for the injustice on Earth. Yes, there was always plenty of it. Since the birth of our civilization. Someone has everything, and someone has nothing at all. Someone is 8 times a day, and someone who has not eaten for several days, dreams only of a crust of bread and a couple of sips of water. And this injustice can only be eliminated by people themselves. People can do anything, but God can do nothing

  59. I live realizing and understanding the uniqueness of every moment, the wonderfulness of every moment. Life is finite and because of this, it is incredibly valuable, there is nothing more valuable. It is easy to go into battle, kill and die knowing that even in the worst case, you are not waiting for the end, not oblivion, but, for example, eternal suffering, and even those will end sooner or later, God is merciful, the main thing is to repent properly.

    If there is no God, then you begin to appreciate people more, because in this vast cold and indifferent cosmos we have nothing and no one but our neighbor.

  60. Realizing this, you begin to appreciate someone else's life. I want to leave something behind. Continuation of the family is about the memory of me as a person, but in a few generations they will forget about me. So I also want to leave a human memory, for example, they invented something or write a breakthrough program (I'm studying to be a programmer). And justice has to be established by a person.

  61. that's how it's enough. about the same as having the strength to walk on your own legs without crutches. probably just not cowards. in any case, we live here and now, and what happens next is a completely different story.

  62. And you work for the sake of the fact that after death there will give you a halo, wings and you can be for all eternity (forever!!!) sing psalms and praise him? It takes forever to see the same faces, the same lyrics, and listen to the same words… And everything will be the same… Well, if you don't go to heaven, then an eternity of fire and pain… Just for the fact that you took away a pencil from a girl in kindergarten and blamed it all on Vovochka… and you are guaranteed eternal hell, pain and fire. I just couldn't think of anything else.

    And then atheism is faith!

  63. Are you suggesting that atheists should not believe in any particular god or in life after the death of the physical body?

    We work on education, we do something that we like, and it's strange to think that atheists do not recognize justice and do not know cause and effect relationships.

  64. Atheists, on the contrary, find it easy. They don't bother with these questions, but get high in the present moment. They live here and now and enjoy all the benefits of this world, without fear of sinning or doing something wrong.

  65. I get high every day and am glad that my head is not clogged with various kinds of beliefs. I sympathize with the believers, as they constantly suffer and torment themselves with doubts about the fate of the world, etc.Life should be easier and people will reach out to you, and love will follow them. All the world!

  66. I don't believe that all shamans, priests, and priests deliberately created a fairy tale for simpletons. Shamans gathered in the cave about a hundred thousand years ago and whisper: and let's, colleagues, come up with a story for simpletons that we saw spirits!

    A person is too smart to live and not think about who ” I ” am, why we dream, where children come from and where parents go.

    As long as there are such questions , there will be answers. The language will not turn to say that people were deliberately misled. Rather, at the very beginning, the answer was so necessary that any version will do, and then the competition started.

    Any, even the most clumsy answer to these questions brings something that is more expensive than gold-it brings power. No prophet or guru has ever been able to resist creating even a small cult.

    All of them describe the unknown, and some are so self-confident that they declare their answers to be the truth, and all the others-infidels, heretics, astray, etc.

    Let's say that there is Someone who is the basis of the world and its cause.

    Then there are 2 options:

    1) If the Reason is favorable to us, then our weak attempts to understand It cannot cause It insults.

    2) If this is not true, then the person is completely free to act.

    Worshipping the Absolute, which is known to exist, is a useless activity, because you were not promised anything.

  67. It's easy to show a cheerful atheistic attitude when you're not much over thirty at best. I would like to hear all these optimists when they turn at least 50.

  68. Yes, no one thinks about death, only passing philosophical reflections, if only. A person is so arranged that he adapts to any paradigm of existence, from this so many opinions and ways of life of people in general. If you think that after life there is eternal darkness. Then you don't think about it very much, you don't get hung up on it and get depressed. Darkness and darkness what will you do about it? “Nothing. Whether there is a chance of not dying – No. All the question is closed.

    In general, every atheist has the idea that death will free you from all your worries and worries. But then comes the sobering “Life may be bad, but it's still better.”

    Probably hard for believers who have become atheists who have destroyed the paradigm of eternal life in themselves, yes, there is a large field for depression to unfold on it.

  69. They don't know it. They just presumptuously believe it. Like a man bungee jumping, with which 1000 people jumped before him. He thinks: “Yes, there will be nothing, it was not for others.” And then he broke off and hit the ground.

    If he wasn't crazy, he would have carried out a thorough scientific study of this bungee, the degree of its wear, materials, calculated the physics of gravity and elasticity. But no-one decided to take a chance. Atheists are also at risk. They can't be called intelligent.

  70. 1) it is not clear that atheists KNOW that there is nothing after death. Atheists just don't use fairy tales and myths, that's all.

    2) It is not clear what other options there are, what is being compared or contrasted with what? After all, believers also do NOT KNOW anything, but simply believe in the words of the priests.

    So we all live quietly and work, without knowledge of the “future afterlife”, and then we'll see what happens and how )

  71. I'm on time,but still. Easy and simple. We don't seek happiness and justice after death, we try to achieve it here in life. We do not devote our short, beautiful life to faith, to serving a conditional God, we try to take everything from life, and this is logical. If I don't believe that there is an afterlife, then why should I think about it, worry about it? I live here and only here and now

  72. There is nothing after death, not for the atheist, but for the egoist, who is unable to think of anything other than rowing under himself. There are no pockets in the coffin, and this is terrible for such people. Religion doesn't help them either, just distracts them a little. And for the atheist, all that he has done for people remains. This is the only thing worth living for, and not dreaming about how to get high in the “afterlife” as well.

  73. Xan Starkovich, I think after reading the comments of atheists, you still haven't received an answer to your question. I also thought about this question before and realized the following: atheists are people who are simply not mature enough at the moment. There are very decent people among atheists, sometimes even much more decent than some theists ( there is nothing more terrible than an immoral theist). Although many of the most ardent atheists later begin to believe in a Higher Power when the time comes. This, in part, explains that atheism is usually characteristic of young people who are not yet used to thinking and reflecting. Also, atheism is often inherent in materialistic people ( who live only for material interests, and therefore they simply do not have time to think), and people who are not stupid. And with narrow-minded people, the demand is small. You will not talk to your pet about high and spiritual things, because he is simply not able to understand this with his mind. And at the same time, your pet lives quietly for himself and enjoys life simply because he lives, and no more. Also here.

    Atheists live in the here and now, in the present moment, calmly and without problems precisely because of the absence of any thoughts about the high.

  74. Life/death / fate/justice are abstract philosophical questions that have nothing to do with reality. Thinking about it is an interesting and exciting activity, but, in fact, it is no different from playing some kind of computer game, playing dolls, playing cards-who likes what. You can reflect while you're full. If you want to eat, you'll be strong in no time. The instinct of self-preservation rules.)

    Well, we don't really know anything. Neither atheists nor believers. Science hasn't progressed that far yet, and faith is just as much a game.

  75. And the author of the question seems to know that after death he will have something. He just believes. That is, he is engaged in self-deception and is under an illusion. Which is a very inefficient way of life. That something was needed consciousness!

  76. I'll try to answer seriously. There are two reasons. The first is that a person has desires and dreams. Both carnal and creative. Both short-term and long-term goals. They lead us to live and implement them, without thinking about the end. Simply put, life is interesting. The process itself is fascinating, even if nothing follows it. The second reason is that an atheist is not necessarily a person who is sure that nothing will happen after the grave. He only denies religions, dogmas. Perhaps there is a God. But I don't believe in it, but I allow it, I don't exclude it, I accept the arguments for and against, I evaluate them creatively and with pleasure. What I'm sure of as an atheist is that God doesn't give a damn if I sleep with someone unofficially or steal something. And also-do I believe in it – well, what kind of kindergarten? That's all the priests came up with, because without the moral aspect of the flock can not keep, and to live on what? -)

  77. You know. When I had health problems (an unsuccessful operation, from the consequences of which I was recovering for several years, and the first half of the year I was in neurology), the only thing I dreamed of was to die. I'm Very Tired Of Suffering. I wanted nothing to happen. Just the end and that's it. And this ending, it seemed so joyful to me. So long-awaited…My mother also dreamed of an ending without a sequel when she was ill ( she has a serious medical condition). But we both believe in God! More precisely, she believes, and I hope… When a person gets better, then he has thoughts about life lasting forever…When he's sick, he just wants to stop everything. So I understand atheists to some extent…

  78. And how do you have the strength to brush your teeth if you know that after eating, the bacteria will still start? How do you have the strength to wash when you know you'll still be sweating? I hope you understand.

    I believe that the one who regularly thinks about his death-dies twice. He has already died the first time and is now living with his death, waiting for the second one to come. And if you don't think about death, you can just enjoy life.

  79. I believe that what is happening can be described by the termScientific Samsara. It is much more beautiful than it is artistically described by various religions. One state flows into another and it continues, literally – indefinitely. And all this is due to Physics, and not to the fact that a person goes to church.

    In this regard, we are most likely not doomed to Death, but just the opposite. We are doomed to Live. Each time we acquire consciousness in a new form, we are doomed to remain in the same physical world, so the only question of life is how to make this world better, even if only for a drop, for ourselves and for others.

  80. Well, it is more difficult, of course, in certain moments. For example, that a bad person “somewhere out there” will not be given what they deserve, and a good person who has lived in suffering and poverty will not go to heaven, that all his torments were in vain. This leads to the fear of a bad life( poverty, disability), because time is limited, and it is inexorably running out. You are left to your own devices, there is no absolute power to help you.
    In general, you have to overcome more than a believer. Maybe it would be better to come up with an artificial calming system, but my brain is so wired that I can't believe in any fairy tales, probably because I don't like being fucked)

  81. That's why life is more beautiful, because it is unique and unrepeatable. And what should happen after death? It will still not be the life that was, even those who adhere to the “idea of an afterlife”, firstly, they cannot know what is there and how what is happening, if at all, and secondly, they cannot clearly formulate what people expect after death, but everyone agrees that it will no longer be the life that was conventionally “here”. The world does not become worse or more meaningless because after death there is no continuation of existence in one form or another, otherwise how does it get worse? You also live. On this topic, I think there is a book of the Bible-the book of Ecclesiastes. In general, read this part of the Old Testament, which I think is a very interesting part of the Bible. The text of Ecclesiastes is fatalistic. The author calls not to try to improve the world, but to live in harmony with your God and enjoy life. �Famous phrase – “Vanity of vanities, said Ecclesiastes, vanity of vanities, all is vanity.“.�

    The author calls all human affairs vanity, as well as such concepts as righteousness, fun, wisdom, youth, wealth, strength, and even life itself. Labor is vain, because the results of any labor are not eternal. Wealth is vain, because it comes and goes, it cannot be taken to the other world. Wisdom is vain, because it cannot guarantee a person's success and prosperity. However, the author is still convinced that wisdom is better than stupidity, and also preferable to physical strength and wealth. But the wise, the foolish, and the rich will die and be forgotten. Righteousness is vain, since the author does not believe in the regularity of righteousness – > reward, sinfulness – > punishment>>. The author explains his point of view by saying that he has witnessed a large amount of injustice. The author does not deny the idea that everything happens according to the will of God and that God acts correctly, but he says that it is impossible for mortals to understand the powers of Providence, and therefore it is not worth trying.

    An interesting fact is that the author does not want to talk about life after death, after the judgment of God. However, he does not deny that God will bring everyone to judgment at the end of their days. Ecclesiastes ' reluctance to think about life after death is explained by the manner of the book as a whole – the author speaks only about what he felt and learned from experience. And experience convinced him of the futility of human efforts.

    This does not change the fact that a person should not do good deeds, as required by religion (in order not to go to hell/go to heaven) . And he creates them because he wants to, maybe so on, but even if he does not really create them, then nothing terrible. As Ecclesiastes wrote, everything is vanity and in vain ,что that you do good deeds, that you do not do them (I will remind you, who does not know monks live in seclusion for years and pray and do not help the poor and generally try not to touch the world, dealing with their inner peace and conscience and establish harmony of their soul with God), You will know one end in the form of If you were wrong, well and good, accept your punishment. You were right, so be happy.�

    And with justice, the situation is that everyone defines it differently, and some interpretation options come into conflict with each other. I'm afraid that it's probably not there, and where we see it, we probably would like it to be there. Where people try to create justice, they never fully achieve it, and this is only a conditional understanding between people about some kind of retribution in what you do/have done or/and what you deserve based on your deeds.�

    The very desire for justice comes from the objective injustice that exists in the world. The world is inherently unfair, and we want to sort out, at least in some way, our human relationships in some justice. Is it good or bad that the world is fundamentally unfair? Most likely, it is better to take this as a given and an axiom. Atheists, on the other hand, answer questions like why do children die of lung cancer at the age of 3, even though they haven't smoked a single cigarette?, and they talk about the causes of death in this case based on natural science data? medicine, biology, anatomy, pathology, and so on. But it is difficult for believers to justify some kind of justice and causal relationship in such cases.

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