Do philosophers have idols of their own, and who do they look up to? And what is the main indicator when choosing an idol?

Philosophers are materialists and bring their own vision of processes to the world, forgetting about the main essence of the component of evolution-the soul .
You need to look for the works of sages of the Divine level, I can recommend for a start several treatises that have not been erased by translations…
1.Tao de ching, edited by Vladimir Antonov.
Taoism is a great and true philosophical and religious movement created by God in China. Its foundation was laid in ancient times by the Divine Emperor of China — Huang Di. But it was designed by the Divine Disciple Huang-Di-Lao-Tzu — in the form of the book of Tao-Te-Ching-a book about Tao and Te.
The word Tao in Chinese refers to the One Universal God (God the Father, Creator, Ishvara, Allah, Svarog — these and other words are called by people in different languages).
The main essence of the methodology of Taoism is identical to Christian hesychasm and other healthy religious trends. It consists in advising all intelligent people to develop themselves as the spiritual heart (the area of the chest that produces the emotions of love). It is only with a developed spiritual heart that we can know God and reach the fullness of spiritual self-realization.
In the millennia that followed the creation of Taoism, the Teachings were largely distorted by human ignorance, as is always the case with the Teachings given to people by God. Even the word Tao itself was interpreted as “path”, although the Tao Te Ching clearly states that ” … Tao is a Being…”
The study of the Path of Self-improvement and practical knowledge of God was replaced by chatter about, for example, dividing food and everything else into yin and yang categories.
Let's go back to the Source!
Thirty spokes are connected in one wheel. But the use of the wheel also depends on the voidness between the spokes.
Clay is used to make vessels. But their use depends on the emptiness in them.
They make walls, doors and shutters on the windows in the house. But the use of the house also depends on the emptiness in it.
Here's how utility items — and voidness-combine.
He who sees only five colors in the world is like a blind man.
One who listens only to the sounds of the material world is like a deaf person.
The one who rushes at full speed in pursuit of prey is mad.
Getting jewelry and jewelry — you act to the detriment of yourself.
The efforts of the wise are directed to making life full, and not to having many things. And he, being content with little in the world of matter, chooses the Original.
Glory and shame are equally terrible. Celebrity is a great misfortune in life. What does it mean that fame and shame are equally terrible? This means that people take risks, fight for fame, and then they are afraid of losing it.
What does it mean that a celebrity is a great misfortune in life? This means that I have a great misfortune, because I value my name. When I do not value my name, then I will not have many misfortunes. He only selflessly serves people. And so he can live among them in peace. He doesn't fight for anything, so he's invulnerable.
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2.A treatise on the morality of Hermes Trismegistus.
On the tablets of the soul must be carved the commandments of good!
The only rich person is the one whose assets are good character and wisdom! These riches will not be taken away by a thief, they will not run out in old age and with the death of the body! These riches grow from acts of kindness and remain with the soul in the world of disembodied.
Modesty is one of the best ornaments and virtues of a person!
It is not enough just to return good for good. You should always do good! At the same time, it is important to learn to understand what exactly is good for every soul.
The one who causes evil is in darkness.
Those who hate bring destruction to others and to themselves!
Get away from the people of vice!
Avoid evil people, but don't dislike them! Have compassion on them, knowing how hard it will be for them to outweigh the scales of fate with acts of kindness…
Don't do anything that doesn't agree with the principle of love! Cultivate the flowers of love in your heart!
Don't treat any creature carelessly! Everything is here-by the Will of God! Every creation of the Creator should be respected!
Anyone who wants to help other people find morality should be an example to them!
When you get annoyed by the words of the other person — you break the harmony, including your own.
Find and correct your own shortcomings yourself, so that others don't have to criticize you!
Don't try to criticize people! It is very harmful for yourself to become irritatingly judgmental! Rather, try to see exactly all the qualities of each person — and support the best of them.
A person can change a lot of things in their life. After all, fate is a plan of God, formed as the best for the soul-based on its past. But the person himself writes the reality of his fate-today.
When, if not right now, do you need to make a decision about the need to transform yourself?
Don't waste your time! This time of your life will never happen again! Every moment of life has its own purpose.
What you call misery or happiness in your life is a consequence of your past.
When someone's evil deed has not received retribution, and good deeds have not received a reward, do not think that God is blind! Everyone reaps the fruits of their deeds at the appointed hour, nothing goes unnoticed by God!
Evil will not touch the one who is pure in soul both now and in the past, and also faithfully fulfills his destiny. Troubles will not follow the persistent traveler who is striving for the Light!
The judgment of the soul is the consideration of its life by God, the weighing in the balance of Justice of all its acts of good and evil. This is how every body experience on Earth is summed up.
In the face of God, everyone is responsible for himself.
Disincarnation is not the death of a person or another being, but the transition to a different life, to a different way of being of the soul.
And it is possible to live life on Earth in such a way that this transition leads to the continuation of life — in the Light!
Wisdom
The first step to wisdom is the desire to learn.
Vicious and undeveloped souls are indifferent to knowledge. They live and die without ever awakening to awareness.
Knowledge is essential for cultivating the wisdom of the soul. Diverse knowledge is useful.
But don't be proud because you know so much! After all, you yourself grew up on the knowledge gained by others. Remember! And your current knowledge belongs not only to you, but to everyone. Give it to people, helping them with it!
Wisdom increases gradually.
As you progress, you can tap into deeper layers of knowledge and use them with increasing wisdom.
Wisdom is not given as a gift, but is gained through the experience of knowledge and love.
Wisdom is gained only by those who have enlightened the accumulated knowledge with the love of the heart. For it is not the mind, but the spiritual heart, that is the main essence of man.
Laziness destroys a person's life force. Idleness will not bring Freedom. Idleness does not bring joy to the soul, but it only binds the chains of boredom… Life force can be wasted when you don't know why you're living on Earth…
You should learn to separate the necessary, useless and harmful in your life.
The realization of Freedom is a great work! You should always continue the work of God: work every day, creating beautiful things! Wisdom is cultivated in acts of kindness!
At the same time, luck comes to those who know the timeliness of actions.
The will of God can be manifested through any person. But the knower of God manifests the Supreme Will quite consciously.
Speech should serve to tell the truth. The utterance of idle words is a violation of harmony.
Speech filled with peace and bearing the words of truth — this is the sign of the wise.
Listening is more useful than talking. Those who learn to listen can gain the ability to hear God. He who hears God receives the keys to knowing Him.
He who knows God can speak from God.
The art of words can be great! Words can not only bring knowledge, but also pave the way for listeners to the Light.

3. The Doctrine of Pythagoras.
Pythagoras is one of the Messiahs who worked to provide spiritual assistance to incarnate people in the countries of the Mediterranean basin. His main contribution to humanity is not in mathematical developments, which are now known to all high school students, but in the fact that He created a perfect spiritual school, the principles of organizing education in which should serve as an example for all subsequent generations of the population of our planet.
At present, Pythagoras and Carthage continue their Divine Service to people as Holy Spirits — Representatives of the Creator.
The most famous Incarnation of Pythagoras took place around 570-500 BC. He is known as a Greek philosopher and mathematician. He was a strict vegetarian. In the southern Italian city of Crotone, which was then part of Greece, he founded the philosophical and religious Pythagorean association, which later became very widespread in the form of branches. The goal of Pythagoras ' activity was the moral renewal of society and the purification of religious beliefs, as well as the transfer of hidden spiritual methods of self-improvement to worthy students. The fellowship was a monastic community that included both men and women who worshipped Pythagoras as the Incarnation of God, which was true. Pythagoras
wrote works on philosophy, mathematics, astronomy, and music. In particular, He knew about the spherical shape of the Earth, inside which the Central Fire resides. He also taught about the immortality of souls and their gradual improvement in a series of incarnations.
***
And now let's get acquainted with the literary translation of the extant text ” Golden Verses of Pythagoras’, which were intended for study by novice adherents of His School.
You must preserve your faith, honor the memory of great heroes, and be in harmony with the world around you.
Cleaning.
Respect your mother and father, as well as your neighbors.
Choose a truly wise husband as your friend, listen to his advice, follow his example, and never quarrel with him for insignificant reasons. Remember the law of cause and effect in your destiny.
Overcome your passions-you are given the opportunity from above. So curb your greed, laziness, sexual passions, and reckless anger with a powerful effort of will!
And being alone — and in front of people-be afraid of committing a bad deed by you! Keep your honor!
Be always just in your words and actions, following the dictates of both the mind and the law implacably.
Do not forget that the inevitable fate leads to the death of all people. Remember that just as earthly goods are easily given to people, they are also easily withdrawn from them.
As for the ills that are given to people according to their destinies, you must bear them with meek patience. But at the same time, try to ease the pain as much as possible. And remember that the Immortal Gods don't give people any more challenges than they can handle.
People have a lot of options to choose from. There are many bad opportunities among them, but also many good ones. Therefore, first you need to look closely at them in order to choose a worthy path for yourself.
But if error prevails over truth among men — the wise man departs and waits for the truth to reign again.
Listen carefully to what I have to say, and remember:
Don't let the actions and thoughts of other people confuse you, don't let them lead you to harmful words and deeds!
Listen to people's advice, think tirelessly yourself! After all, only a fool acts without first thinking!
Do only what will not cause you grief or remorse later on!
Do not dare to take up a task unknown to you right away, but learn it first — only then will you achieve success!
You should not exhaust your body, but try to give it food, drink and exercise in moderation-so that your body will strengthen, knowing neither excess nor laziness!
And after you have completely transformed your soul, you will be able to become an Immortal God, who crushed death with his foot.

___
Based on the lectures: “Classics of spiritual Philosophy and modernity”

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alexey_kardash says:

2022-04-04 at 1:37 am

Perhaps there are no idols, since uncomplaining worship is about ideology, not about philosophy. Which, in principle, does not mean that there are no ideologized philosophers. Nevertheless, for the most part, there are not idols, but rather certain thinkers who have been interesting to them for a long time and with whom philosophers largely agree, but at the same time the attitude towards these thinkers is always critical. Simply because of the basic principles of philosophy, the philosopher will always have a certain desire to supplement, refute, reinterpret or catch a conditional idol on something.

In this regard, all sorts of teachings that originate from one figure are really indicative. Roughly speaking, each particular type of Hegelians has its own Hegel and they somehow do not like other Hegels at all.

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philosophizing_joan says:

2022-04-04 at 2:25 am

It's probably different for everyone. I would say that most philosophers do not have idols, but teachers or founders of some trends to which modern philosophers refer themselves. Although sometimes it can really reach the stage of worship.

For example, there is Hegel and all sorts of Hegelians – followers of his teachings. The most adequate of them are able to criticize Hegel, while remaining within the framework of his teachings. But there are also those for whom Hegel has become an idol, and any criticism of his main propositions is practically heresy.

As for the criterion for choosing an idol, it seems to me that its popularity will be in the first place, and in the second place – compliance with the personal beliefs of the person choosing it. Although it often happens that idols tend to create themselves exactly those people whose own beliefs are very shaky.

If the philosopher chooses not an idol, but a teacher or current, then he mainly relies on its evidence and proximity to his own views. For example, today I am close to Popper's philosophy, I am interested in Marx, although I understand that to put my own worldview in a set of isms means to limit it quite strongly. But sometimes this is necessary in order to understand something about yourself and find a point from which you can start in the future.

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olga_levina says:

2022-04-04 at 3:24 am

It depends on what period to consider. In Antiquity, philosophers were more likely to have teachers, or those whose teachings their successors supplemented and reinterpreted. This is how the Neo-Platonists appeared, for example. Plato himself had a strong spiritual connection with Socrates, but here I do not presume to say that he was exactly an idol, although it is clear that he had extremely reverent feelings for him — as for a teacher, a close friend.

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anatoly_kangin says:

2022-04-04 at 3:45 am

Real philosophers-sages can not have idols on a whim. Idols are created by people who study the works of philosophers and their followers. Thus Pythagoras had followers and a whole galaxy of Pythagorians who supported the doctrine that God is a universal Mind that extends throughout all things and the dogma of the immortality of the soul – – – are the main characteristic features in these seemingly absurd teachings. There was an interesting meeting between Lao Tzu and Confucius, but the former did not consider Confucius a sage, which was confirmed by life when Confucius renounced his teachings and recognized them as erroneous. No and once again no there were no idols among the sages and there could not be any. With respect.

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rinat_nurov says:

2022-04-04 at 4:25 am

Everyone who considers himself a philosopher, naively believes that he is the only one so unique and is an idol for others.I once talked to two graduates of the Faculty of Philosophy.Stupid as traffic jams, absolutely not adapted to life,but already philosophers…

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vitaly_utkin says:

2022-04-04 at 4:40 am

Philosophers are materialists and bring their own vision of processes to the world, forgetting about the main essence of the component of evolution-the soul .
You need to look for the works of sages of the Divine level, I can recommend for a start several treatises that have not been erased by translations…
1.Tao de ching, edited by Vladimir Antonov.
Taoism is a great and true philosophical and religious movement created by God in China. Its foundation was laid in ancient times by the Divine Emperor of China — Huang Di. But it was designed by the Divine Disciple Huang-Di-Lao-Tzu — in the form of the book of Tao-Te-Ching-a book about Tao and Te.
The word Tao in Chinese refers to the One Universal God (God the Father, Creator, Ishvara, Allah, Svarog — these and other words are called by people in different languages).
The main essence of the methodology of Taoism is identical to Christian hesychasm and other healthy religious trends. It consists in advising all intelligent people to develop themselves as the spiritual heart (the area of the chest that produces the emotions of love). It is only with a developed spiritual heart that we can know God and reach the fullness of spiritual self-realization.
In the millennia that followed the creation of Taoism, the Teachings were largely distorted by human ignorance, as is always the case with the Teachings given to people by God. Even the word Tao itself was interpreted as “path”, although the Tao Te Ching clearly states that ” … Tao is a Being…”
The study of the Path of Self-improvement and practical knowledge of God was replaced by chatter about, for example, dividing food and everything else into yin and yang categories.
Let's go back to the Source!
Thirty spokes are connected in one wheel. But the use of the wheel also depends on the voidness between the spokes.
Clay is used to make vessels. But their use depends on the emptiness in them.
They make walls, doors and shutters on the windows in the house. But the use of the house also depends on the emptiness in it.
Here's how utility items — and voidness-combine.
He who sees only five colors in the world is like a blind man.
One who listens only to the sounds of the material world is like a deaf person.
The one who rushes at full speed in pursuit of prey is mad.
Getting jewelry and jewelry — you act to the detriment of yourself.
The efforts of the wise are directed to making life full, and not to having many things. And he, being content with little in the world of matter, chooses the Original.
Glory and shame are equally terrible. Celebrity is a great misfortune in life. What does it mean that fame and shame are equally terrible? This means that people take risks, fight for fame, and then they are afraid of losing it.
What does it mean that a celebrity is a great misfortune in life? This means that I have a great misfortune, because I value my name. When I do not value my name, then I will not have many misfortunes. He only selflessly serves people. And so he can live among them in peace. He doesn't fight for anything, so he's invulnerable.
*
2.A treatise on the morality of Hermes Trismegistus.
On the tablets of the soul must be carved the commandments of good!
The only rich person is the one whose assets are good character and wisdom! These riches will not be taken away by a thief, they will not run out in old age and with the death of the body! These riches grow from acts of kindness and remain with the soul in the world of disembodied.
Modesty is one of the best ornaments and virtues of a person!
It is not enough just to return good for good. You should always do good! At the same time, it is important to learn to understand what exactly is good for every soul.
The one who causes evil is in darkness.
Those who hate bring destruction to others and to themselves!
Get away from the people of vice!
Avoid evil people, but don't dislike them! Have compassion on them, knowing how hard it will be for them to outweigh the scales of fate with acts of kindness…
Don't do anything that doesn't agree with the principle of love! Cultivate the flowers of love in your heart!
Don't treat any creature carelessly! Everything is here-by the Will of God! Every creation of the Creator should be respected!
Anyone who wants to help other people find morality should be an example to them!
When you get annoyed by the words of the other person — you break the harmony, including your own.
Find and correct your own shortcomings yourself, so that others don't have to criticize you!
Don't try to criticize people! It is very harmful for yourself to become irritatingly judgmental! Rather, try to see exactly all the qualities of each person — and support the best of them.
A person can change a lot of things in their life. After all, fate is a plan of God, formed as the best for the soul-based on its past. But the person himself writes the reality of his fate-today.
When, if not right now, do you need to make a decision about the need to transform yourself?
Don't waste your time! This time of your life will never happen again! Every moment of life has its own purpose.
What you call misery or happiness in your life is a consequence of your past.
When someone's evil deed has not received retribution, and good deeds have not received a reward, do not think that God is blind! Everyone reaps the fruits of their deeds at the appointed hour, nothing goes unnoticed by God!
Evil will not touch the one who is pure in soul both now and in the past, and also faithfully fulfills his destiny. Troubles will not follow the persistent traveler who is striving for the Light!
The judgment of the soul is the consideration of its life by God, the weighing in the balance of Justice of all its acts of good and evil. This is how every body experience on Earth is summed up.
In the face of God, everyone is responsible for himself.
Disincarnation is not the death of a person or another being, but the transition to a different life, to a different way of being of the soul.
And it is possible to live life on Earth in such a way that this transition leads to the continuation of life — in the Light!
Wisdom
The first step to wisdom is the desire to learn.
Vicious and undeveloped souls are indifferent to knowledge. They live and die without ever awakening to awareness.
Knowledge is essential for cultivating the wisdom of the soul. Diverse knowledge is useful.
But don't be proud because you know so much! After all, you yourself grew up on the knowledge gained by others. Remember! And your current knowledge belongs not only to you, but to everyone. Give it to people, helping them with it!
Wisdom increases gradually.
As you progress, you can tap into deeper layers of knowledge and use them with increasing wisdom.
Wisdom is not given as a gift, but is gained through the experience of knowledge and love.
Wisdom is gained only by those who have enlightened the accumulated knowledge with the love of the heart. For it is not the mind, but the spiritual heart, that is the main essence of man.
Laziness destroys a person's life force. Idleness will not bring Freedom. Idleness does not bring joy to the soul, but it only binds the chains of boredom… Life force can be wasted when you don't know why you're living on Earth…
You should learn to separate the necessary, useless and harmful in your life.
The realization of Freedom is a great work! You should always continue the work of God: work every day, creating beautiful things! Wisdom is cultivated in acts of kindness!
At the same time, luck comes to those who know the timeliness of actions.
The will of God can be manifested through any person. But the knower of God manifests the Supreme Will quite consciously.
Speech should serve to tell the truth. The utterance of idle words is a violation of harmony.
Speech filled with peace and bearing the words of truth — this is the sign of the wise.
Listening is more useful than talking. Those who learn to listen can gain the ability to hear God. He who hears God receives the keys to knowing Him.
He who knows God can speak from God.
The art of words can be great! Words can not only bring knowledge, but also pave the way for listeners to the Light.

3. The Doctrine of Pythagoras.
Pythagoras is one of the Messiahs who worked to provide spiritual assistance to incarnate people in the countries of the Mediterranean basin. His main contribution to humanity is not in mathematical developments, which are now known to all high school students, but in the fact that He created a perfect spiritual school, the principles of organizing education in which should serve as an example for all subsequent generations of the population of our planet.
At present, Pythagoras and Carthage continue their Divine Service to people as Holy Spirits — Representatives of the Creator.
The most famous Incarnation of Pythagoras took place around 570-500 BC. He is known as a Greek philosopher and mathematician. He was a strict vegetarian. In the southern Italian city of Crotone, which was then part of Greece, he founded the philosophical and religious Pythagorean association, which later became very widespread in the form of branches. The goal of Pythagoras ' activity was the moral renewal of society and the purification of religious beliefs, as well as the transfer of hidden spiritual methods of self-improvement to worthy students. The fellowship was a monastic community that included both men and women who worshipped Pythagoras as the Incarnation of God, which was true. Pythagoras
wrote works on philosophy, mathematics, astronomy, and music. In particular, He knew about the spherical shape of the Earth, inside which the Central Fire resides. He also taught about the immortality of souls and their gradual improvement in a series of incarnations.
***
And now let's get acquainted with the literary translation of the extant text ” Golden Verses of Pythagoras’, which were intended for study by novice adherents of His School.
You must preserve your faith, honor the memory of great heroes, and be in harmony with the world around you.
Cleaning.
Respect your mother and father, as well as your neighbors.
Choose a truly wise husband as your friend, listen to his advice, follow his example, and never quarrel with him for insignificant reasons. Remember the law of cause and effect in your destiny.
Overcome your passions-you are given the opportunity from above. So curb your greed, laziness, sexual passions, and reckless anger with a powerful effort of will!
And being alone — and in front of people-be afraid of committing a bad deed by you! Keep your honor!
Be always just in your words and actions, following the dictates of both the mind and the law implacably.
Do not forget that the inevitable fate leads to the death of all people. Remember that just as earthly goods are easily given to people, they are also easily withdrawn from them.
As for the ills that are given to people according to their destinies, you must bear them with meek patience. But at the same time, try to ease the pain as much as possible. And remember that the Immortal Gods don't give people any more challenges than they can handle.
People have a lot of options to choose from. There are many bad opportunities among them, but also many good ones. Therefore, first you need to look closely at them in order to choose a worthy path for yourself.
But if error prevails over truth among men — the wise man departs and waits for the truth to reign again.
Listen carefully to what I have to say, and remember:
Don't let the actions and thoughts of other people confuse you, don't let them lead you to harmful words and deeds!
Listen to people's advice, think tirelessly yourself! After all, only a fool acts without first thinking!
Do only what will not cause you grief or remorse later on!
Do not dare to take up a task unknown to you right away, but learn it first — only then will you achieve success!
You should not exhaust your body, but try to give it food, drink and exercise in moderation-so that your body will strengthen, knowing neither excess nor laziness!
And after you have completely transformed your soul, you will be able to become an Immortal God, who crushed death with his foot.

___
Based on the lectures: “Classics of spiritual Philosophy and modernity”

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