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  1. A normal problem. Such chains are a variant of a training exercise. Being confident is good because… – and the ball goes on; it's bad to be sure, because… And so a group of 15 people.

    Normal dialectic. It's part of critical thinking to look at any question from the opposite angle, but it's true in both cases.

    I thought it was fun to comply with your offer, Victor.�

    I will immediately explain that I do not consider myself either patriotic, cosmopolitan, or indifferent. I do not plan to leave Arkhangelsk anywhere, I am happy when the train returns home past my native Christmas trees and sticks… but this is not about patriotism, but about childhood, wooden sidewalks, the CRH where he worked, the stoves that he heated… this is all about me and my loved ones, not even about the city and especially not about the country. In Yerevan this May, I was happy with poppies. Dad planted them every year, with nasturtiums and marigolds, outside the window of our wooden house. And there are wonderful people there. And singing fountains; and.. In Stockholm, I was fascinated by the bike paths, and the way the city was made for people even on the outskirts, and the whole world, all races and peoples, on the streets. But I'm not a cosmopolitan, either. Just a man in his own circumstances. It seems to me that if you love yourself and your loved ones, then you can touch your feelings and what is around and around the world will respond to you, and there is no contradiction in this, and let those who hang them on themselves and others against their will choke on labels…


    1. This is the desire to take care of other people, which makes a person better, nobler, more spiritual, whatever-it-means, in their own eyes. And sometimes in the eyes of others, but here everything is difficult.

    2. This is one of the options for meaning in our objectively meaningless life.

    3. This is one of the options for a surrogate of immortality: I will die, but the Homeland will remain. Well, nothing lasts forever, but it's definitely over the horizon.

    4. A moderate, well-behaved patriot who knows the line (“double solid”)) “maybe he's in good standing with his superiors.” Although the authorities are usually wary of very ideological ones: you never know what they will throw out…

    5. You have some serious common value with most people in your country… However, as long as you do not go into the details of your patriotism. Remember how Exupery does when he's in the trenches with the Republicans, and they're talking to the Francoists. What are you fighting for?! “To Spain!” What are you fighting for? “To Spain!”..

    In short, patriotism and the idea of the Motherland serve for the atheist in terms of asserting his identity, answering eternal-damned-existential questions (about meaning, about death, about loneliness in the world). the same function as faith and the idea of God for the believer.
    And for a believer – an excellent additional support of the same plan, if he wants. So for Orthodoxy, if you do not take the union of its superiors with the state, everything earthly is vain, it does not matter, only salvation in Christ is important for eternal life … (Do not say so). To Cyril!)

    Not good:
    1. In general, the patriot “normal”, by nature, is critical of the state. Not to the Motherland, but just to politicians-officials-bureaucrats-security forces; in any country. Because they are people, they have their own interests, and once in power, they realize these interests. Not that they're villains. People. Just in power. – So the patriot, in fact, has nothing like the ecstasy of merging with the authorities. Tough or not, but to some extent a patriot is an opponent of his state as an apparatus. And it does not add comfort to his life.

    2. In terms of existential buns: meaning beyond your own life, caring for other people, all-I-won't-die, spirituality whatever-it-means, cosmopolitanism is probably even cooler than patriotism. If the Motherland is the whole world, if brothers and sisters are all of humanity… Well, okay, patriotism in this sense is not “bad”, just not necessary.

    3. Patriotism is a very good thing for animal manipulation of subjects by the very state that would be watched and watched. That's why they were created and nurtured. It is very easy to turn out chauvinism, my Boss and I are people, the whole world, or those bastards-inhumans, atu them!..

    4. Any ideology drags a person away from his philistine, philistine, earthly life: children, delicious food, vegetable garden, fishing, professional activities… Unless, of course, ideology becomes a profession. But a professional patriot-that's right, my friends-he is! – a politician, an official, and so on down the list are the very cadres that are being watched closely. And I went to take care of my homeland – I ran into trouble, they loaded me into a paddy wagon there, or something else.

    5. Homeland – in general, the concept is not strict. So for us, the Soviet Komsomol pioneers, Armenia, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Georgia, Estonia, etc – – Homeland? But of course! – Ah – um… now-here is Kyrgyzstan and Estonia-my homeland?.. And why? What has changed, is the Motherland a sacred, sacred concept?.. Okay, and Ulan-Ude is my homeland?.. Given the fact that I took a train there once, and I don't plan to do it again in this life?.. Should I LOVE Ulan-Ude with all my heart and lay down my head for it (friends from Buryatia, do not be offended, and I do not expect you to love the villages of the Arkhangelsk region with all your heart). And if, God forbid, Buryatia is like Georgia and Azerbaijan, I will no longer love it from the appropriate date?.. – In a word, as if with patriotism you need something lively and very concrete: love for your wife, parents, children, extend to… what they say and explain, within what limits. There is no clarity about this…

  2. I believe that persistent patriotism should not be an unconditional love for your state, covering up all its vices, mistakes and shortcomings, but a caring love aimed at its progress and improvement.Love motivating for the improvement and development of the state, proceeding solely from good intentions.
    However, many “patriots” perceive the idea incorrectly – for them, patriotism is equivalent to an unyielding belief in the superiority of their state/nationality over all others.
    Such thinking only harms the homeland of the “patriot”. Blind faith does not allow us to notice the shortcomings in our state, and thus only contributes to the senseless separation of nations and the fueling of empty disputes between them.
    My personal opinion (mostly derived from personal acquaintance with patriots, and built on the basis of their statements) is that patriotism in its true manifestation is the most beautiful guide of human activity, directing it towards helping its fellow citizens, in order to improve their lives. And for individuals whose patriotism reaches the point of real fanaticism (i.e., blind faith), it is nothing more than a cog in the mechanism, convenient for use for its own purpose by third parties, with goals known only to themselves.

  3. Patriotism is such a basic feeling that it is very difficult to answer non-banally what it is good and what it is bad for. Part of the answer will be self-quoted. And yet, I noticed that Yevgeny Yakovlev wrote about this in approximately the same words on our website.

    I do not equate people and animals, although we are related, but some birds, for example, have loyalty to their nest. They migrate, but not only return, but also tend to occupy their own nest.

    Love for a certain culture with its place on Earth, language, shared books from childhood recognizable by half a phrase and even one intonated word – there is nothing wrong with this. This is patriotism.

    I suspect that in order to feel love, you have to lose what you love. Feel what you're losing.�

    You will hear a speech in twenty years, not random, not episodic, but just like that-a river in all its power of thousands of words. See a temple that is fourteen centuries old and now you have grown up, and its central tower collapsed while you were gone.�

    I have two patriotism ) Apart from Russia, I have lived in Armenia for a long time.�

    Patriotism does not imply hatred of all other cultures. So loving your wife doesn't mean hating all other women. On the contrary, true love always teaches you to love others as well. She opens her eyes, not closes them. It teaches understanding, attention, and interest.

    Patriotism does not deprive you of a critical attitude to your own culture. On the contrary, I, knowing the culture of a certain people better, know the shortcomings better than others.�

    The bad thing is that patriotism, as a basic feeling, can be very culturally poor people. Their statements may not even exceed the limits of the norm, but they are just depressingly flat, like all these slogans-pictures in the context. I wanted to write more on TV and on car stickers, but there's definitely pathology there.

    What is wrong with chauvinism, which is confused with patriotism, I will not write so as not to overflow the already full bowl of platitudes.

    Chauvinism (French: chauvinisme) is an ideology that preaches superiority, hostility, and even hatred of outsiders, foreigners, and gentiles, based on the principle of “not so — alien — stranger — enemy”. Often for the purpose of justifying the right to discriminate and oppress other groups of people or peoples. One of the forms of heteronomy and xenophobia[1].

    thanks to Vicki.

    Just one more related link on our website:

    patriotism is the last refuge for scoundrels?

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