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  1. I understand Consciousness as a separate Self.

    In other words, I am the consciousness, and the body is the pet through which I can exchange information with the physical world.

    This explains such concepts as sleep, loss of consciousness, and death.

    In fact, for the body, these phenomena are the same: Exit of consciousness.

    Only in the case of the cessation of functioning of the body (death) can consciousness no longer return.

    This understanding explains the phenomena:

    • sleepwalking is an unconscious body performing mechanical actions (walking), when consciousness returns to the body, it does not know what this body was doing
    • coma – the body lives and functions, but consciousness cannot return.

    And death is something we encounter every night. In other words, every night we die, and in the morning we come back to life. What we see in our dreams is Heaven or Hell.

    And if there is complete harmony and tranquility in life, and the dreams are pleasant, this is the Paradise after death.

  2. Due to the absolute abstractness and speculative nature of the concept of “consciousness”, there is no single “concept” of it and there can not be. There are various interpretations that are necessary and applicable in different practical life situations.

    For example, in the traditionalist worldview, including the religious one, consciousness can be called a certain unified field, the “diamond network of Indra”, the local manifestation of which is all individual consciousnesses. It is clear that after the death of an individual, consciousness does not fade away simply because it does not belong to the individual: just as the radio wave it is tuned to does not belong to the radio receiver.�

    Even in psychological theory and practice, the term “consciousness” is interpreted differently. For example, I prefer to understand this as an arbitrary ability of a person to concentrate highly on their own thoughts, actions, and their causes. If you concentrate , you are aware. If you don't concentrate, you are acting under the influence of the unconscious.

  3. When a person dies, his consciousness leaves the body.

    But the individual does not die.

    There will be a new earth and a new sky. And the new people. Of individuals worthy of eternal life.

    Let's understand what CONSCIOUSNESS is.

    Let's think abstractly. Let's start with THE MIND. After all, there can be no consciousness without it.

    Let's imagine the Mind separately.

    Beyond any being.

    1. In order for the mind to think, the Will is needed. The will sets the mind in motion. Now the mind was at rest, and now it began to think.

    Without the action of the will, the mind would always be at rest and would not be realized or manifested in any way.

    Can the will be in itself, as a life-giving and actuating force?

    Why not?

    But it can only manifest itself by acting on something. And only the mind from which it comes can direct it to anything.

    In order for him to think, a desire must appear in him.

    That is, thinking is preceded by desire.

    A, for the appearance of desire and the process of thinking, the action of the will is necessary.

    From this we conclude that reason and will are simultaneously separate and unified, and act together and SIMULTANEOUSLY.

    For a thought not to be meaningless, it must be verbal.

    Thinking verbally.

    Moreover, when the mind composes a thought from words, the necessary words appear at the right moment from MEMORY, as if selected in advance. And he doesn't have to go through all the words until he finds the right one.

    2. The conclusion is that thinking is not subject to time as we know it.

    Let's return to our abstraction and reflect further.

    So we see a Mind that can think through the Will and the Word.

    These three hypostases are separate and at the same time constitute a single Trinity.

    That is, a bundle – Mind, Will, Word.

    Let's move on.

    3. The mind must be self-aware. And to think, he needs food for thought.

    He can only become aware of himself in relation to something else. And food for thought can give him something that is outside of him.

    That is, the mind, in order to realize itself, must touch being.

    That which can realize itself is CONSCIOUSNESS.

    WE CONCLUDE that CONSCIOUSNESS is MIND plus WILL and LOGOS, i.e. the Trinity.

    The mind is intelligent and capable of interacting with others through words.

    Looking ahead, God is the Absolute Trinity Consciousness.

    Father-Mind

    The Holy Spirit is the Will. The infinite energy of God. It animates and sets everything in motion.

    Son – Thought, Word, Logos.

    The Son is born of the Father through the Holy Spirit.

    Our world was created by Absolute Consciousness. The Trinity God.

    1. For a person, it is necessary to distinguish between the action of his will-in the mind and outside it.

    Thinking takes place within the mind.

    In this case, the will acts within the mind. The will sets the mind in motion, and the mind at the same time directs the will itself in the direction it needs. Their work is mutual.

    The connection of mind, memory, and will is not subject to our time. They are out of our time and act simultaneously.

    The result of thinking is thought-logos.

    A thought is verbal. Words are formed into sentences and a plan-logos. Into a plan of action beyond the mind.

    The mind determines the direction of the action of the will outside of consciousness. Gives it the application vector, i.e. sets a task.

    Further, the conscious will, through the body, embodies this decision in being.

    Man is threefold-mind, will, body.

    The body is manifested in the physical world, but the mind is outside of physical existence, and therefore outside of the body. That's why we can't see it.

    The mind controls the body through the will emanating from it. The mind decides, and the will, bringing the body into action, embodies this decision in our being.

    The human body is completely connected to the physical world through the eyes, ears, touch, smell, etc.and with such a beautiful instrument as hands, it is able not only to be in it, but also to change it.

    And the brain is an intermediate organ between the body in the physical world and the mind outside of it. Also, the brain provides human life.

    The biggest misconception is that intelligence comes from the brain.

    I decided to do something – the brain gave the command to the muscles to perform the necessary action, again through the will.

    Reason in action is thinking.

    The brain does not give birth to reason, but participates in the process of transforming thought into action. It participates in the embodiment of immaterial thought in material existence.

    1. Consciousness plus body, there is-personal being.

    Personal being encompasses both non-being – the immaterial plane) – consciousness, and material being-consciousness and body.

    In order for a person to perform any action, he must have a desire to do so. When he decides to do something, his desire will manifest itself in being an action.

    Action is the final result of the work of consciousness. This is the manifestation of the immaterial mind in the material world.

    That is, being is constructed by an immaterial mind.

    Consciousness is primary – being is secondary.

  4. The concept of consciousness is rather vague. Gilbert Ryle in the book, ahem, “The concept of consciousness”, chapter Self-knowledge, gives 5 possible meanings that are put into this word.
    As for the nature of consciousness, there are theories of consciousness in both philosophy and neuroscience.
    Personally, I consider the information approach (D. Dubrovsky) and functionalism (especially D. Armstrong's approach) to be the closest in philosophy.
    In neuroscience, the main ones are B. Baars ' global workspace theory, S. Dehane's neural global space, and D. Edelman's re-entry theory. If the theories of hydraulic fracturing and NGRP are more concerned with the prerequisites for consciousness, then Edelman's theory and A. M. Ivanitsky's theory, which is similar in approach and results, describe the mechanism of the occurrence of sensations.
    Both directions are close to integration. Ivanitsky and Edelman's research shows that conscious sensations that a person can verbally report occur when information from the senses is integrated with information from the hippocampus, which is closely associated with memory and categorization. However, this exchange of information also takes place through the channels of the global workspace.
    Separately, we should touch upon the “difficult problem of consciousness”. The author of the term, philosopher D. Chalmers, believes that existing models of consciousness cannot explain the phenomenal component of consciousness. For example: the sensation of color has no physical characteristics, it is impossible to reduce the color to the properties of the reflective surface. Similarly, the sense of color is different, irreducible to processes in the visual analyzer. Functionalist and behaviorist explanations are not sufficient, since the perception of color and its causal role are different things (for example, the feeling of red light from a traffic light VS the reaction not to cross the road).
    D. Dubrovsky, in his polemic with Chalmers, expresses as a solution to a ” difficult problem “the idea that sensory information is given to us” in its pure form”, that is, as information, without access to neural codes. However, this point of view leaves the question of who perceives this “pure information”, generating a regression of the homunculus.
    There is a lot of literature and various approaches to the problem of consciousness, I gave something that “caught” me

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5 Answers

  1. I understand Consciousness as a separate Self.

    In other words, I am the consciousness, and the body is the pet through which I can exchange information with the physical world.

    This explains such concepts as sleep, loss of consciousness, and death.

    In fact, for the body, these phenomena are the same: Exit of consciousness.

    Only in the case of the cessation of functioning of the body (death) can consciousness no longer return.

    This understanding explains the phenomena:

    • sleepwalking is an unconscious body performing mechanical actions (walking), when consciousness returns to the body, it does not know what this body was doing
    • coma – the body lives and functions, but consciousness cannot return.

    And death is something we encounter every night. In other words, every night we die, and in the morning we come back to life. What we see in our dreams is Heaven or Hell.

    And if there is complete harmony and tranquility in life, and the dreams are pleasant, this is the Paradise after death.

  2. Due to the absolute abstractness and speculative nature of the concept of “consciousness”, there is no single “concept” of it and there can not be. There are various interpretations that are necessary and applicable in different practical life situations.

    For example, in the traditionalist worldview, including the religious one, consciousness can be called a certain unified field, the “diamond network of Indra”, the local manifestation of which is all individual consciousnesses. It is clear that after the death of an individual, consciousness does not fade away simply because it does not belong to the individual: just as the radio wave it is tuned to does not belong to the radio receiver.�

    Even in psychological theory and practice, the term “consciousness” is interpreted differently. For example, I prefer to understand this as an arbitrary ability of a person to concentrate highly on their own thoughts, actions, and their causes. If you concentrate , you are aware. If you don't concentrate, you are acting under the influence of the unconscious.

  3. When a person dies, his consciousness leaves the body.

    But the individual does not die.

    There will be a new earth and a new sky. And the new people. Of individuals worthy of eternal life.

    Let's understand what CONSCIOUSNESS is.

    Let's think abstractly. Let's start with THE MIND. After all, there can be no consciousness without it.

    Let's imagine the Mind separately.

    Beyond any being.

    1. In order for the mind to think, the Will is needed. The will sets the mind in motion. Now the mind was at rest, and now it began to think.

    Without the action of the will, the mind would always be at rest and would not be realized or manifested in any way.

    Can the will be in itself, as a life-giving and actuating force?

    Why not?

    But it can only manifest itself by acting on something. And only the mind from which it comes can direct it to anything.

    In order for him to think, a desire must appear in him.

    That is, thinking is preceded by desire.

    A, for the appearance of desire and the process of thinking, the action of the will is necessary.

    From this we conclude that reason and will are simultaneously separate and unified, and act together and SIMULTANEOUSLY.

    For a thought not to be meaningless, it must be verbal.

    Thinking verbally.

    Moreover, when the mind composes a thought from words, the necessary words appear at the right moment from MEMORY, as if selected in advance. And he doesn't have to go through all the words until he finds the right one.

    2. The conclusion is that thinking is not subject to time as we know it.

    Let's return to our abstraction and reflect further.

    So we see a Mind that can think through the Will and the Word.

    These three hypostases are separate and at the same time constitute a single Trinity.

    That is, a bundle – Mind, Will, Word.

    Let's move on.

    3. The mind must be self-aware. And to think, he needs food for thought.

    He can only become aware of himself in relation to something else. And food for thought can give him something that is outside of him.

    That is, the mind, in order to realize itself, must touch being.

    That which can realize itself is CONSCIOUSNESS.

    WE CONCLUDE that CONSCIOUSNESS is MIND plus WILL and LOGOS, i.e. the Trinity.

    The mind is intelligent and capable of interacting with others through words.

    Looking ahead, God is the Absolute Trinity Consciousness.

    Father-Mind

    The Holy Spirit is the Will. The infinite energy of God. It animates and sets everything in motion.

    Son – Thought, Word, Logos.

    The Son is born of the Father through the Holy Spirit.

    Our world was created by Absolute Consciousness. The Trinity God.

    1. For a person, it is necessary to distinguish between the action of his will-in the mind and outside it.

    Thinking takes place within the mind.

    In this case, the will acts within the mind. The will sets the mind in motion, and the mind at the same time directs the will itself in the direction it needs. Their work is mutual.

    The connection of mind, memory, and will is not subject to our time. They are out of our time and act simultaneously.

    The result of thinking is thought-logos.

    A thought is verbal. Words are formed into sentences and a plan-logos. Into a plan of action beyond the mind.

    The mind determines the direction of the action of the will outside of consciousness. Gives it the application vector, i.e. sets a task.

    Further, the conscious will, through the body, embodies this decision in being.

    Man is threefold-mind, will, body.

    The body is manifested in the physical world, but the mind is outside of physical existence, and therefore outside of the body. That's why we can't see it.

    The mind controls the body through the will emanating from it. The mind decides, and the will, bringing the body into action, embodies this decision in our being.

    The human body is completely connected to the physical world through the eyes, ears, touch, smell, etc.and with such a beautiful instrument as hands, it is able not only to be in it, but also to change it.

    And the brain is an intermediate organ between the body in the physical world and the mind outside of it. Also, the brain provides human life.

    The biggest misconception is that intelligence comes from the brain.

    I decided to do something – the brain gave the command to the muscles to perform the necessary action, again through the will.

    Reason in action is thinking.

    The brain does not give birth to reason, but participates in the process of transforming thought into action. It participates in the embodiment of immaterial thought in material existence.

    1. Consciousness plus body, there is-personal being.

    Personal being encompasses both non-being – the immaterial plane) – consciousness, and material being-consciousness and body.

    In order for a person to perform any action, he must have a desire to do so. When he decides to do something, his desire will manifest itself in being an action.

    Action is the final result of the work of consciousness. This is the manifestation of the immaterial mind in the material world.

    That is, being is constructed by an immaterial mind.

    Consciousness is primary – being is secondary.

  4. The concept of consciousness is rather vague. Gilbert Ryle in the book, ahem, “The concept of consciousness”, chapter Self-knowledge, gives 5 possible meanings that are put into this word.
    As for the nature of consciousness, there are theories of consciousness in both philosophy and neuroscience.
    Personally, I consider the information approach (D. Dubrovsky) and functionalism (especially D. Armstrong's approach) to be the closest in philosophy.
    In neuroscience, the main ones are B. Baars ' global workspace theory, S. Dehane's neural global space, and D. Edelman's re-entry theory. If the theories of hydraulic fracturing and NGRP are more concerned with the prerequisites for consciousness, then Edelman's theory and A. M. Ivanitsky's theory, which is similar in approach and results, describe the mechanism of the occurrence of sensations.
    Both directions are close to integration. Ivanitsky and Edelman's research shows that conscious sensations that a person can verbally report occur when information from the senses is integrated with information from the hippocampus, which is closely associated with memory and categorization. However, this exchange of information also takes place through the channels of the global workspace.
    Separately, we should touch upon the “difficult problem of consciousness”. The author of the term, philosopher D. Chalmers, believes that existing models of consciousness cannot explain the phenomenal component of consciousness. For example: the sensation of color has no physical characteristics, it is impossible to reduce the color to the properties of the reflective surface. Similarly, the sense of color is different, irreducible to processes in the visual analyzer. Functionalist and behaviorist explanations are not sufficient, since the perception of color and its causal role are different things (for example, the feeling of red light from a traffic light VS the reaction not to cross the road).
    D. Dubrovsky, in his polemic with Chalmers, expresses as a solution to a ” difficult problem “the idea that sensory information is given to us” in its pure form”, that is, as information, without access to neural codes. However, this point of view leaves the question of who perceives this “pure information”, generating a regression of the homunculus.
    There is a lot of literature and various approaches to the problem of consciousness, I gave something that “caught” me

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