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  1. This is a question for Salinger.

    And the answer is always in the context of what is being discussed.

    Nothing is all/always.

    Deep values, meanings, can be situationally or sustainably more important than the value of saving your life. In itself, from my point of view, this does not mean either “maturity” or “immaturity”, whatever that means.

    Immaturity only if these are uncritically perceived values and ideas that are not really your own. A person who voluntarily goes to certain death for something that is important and dear to him can be a person who made his decision EITHER stupidly and enthusiastically, OR maturely and responsibly.�

    But-you know, a thesis like Salinger's is very much a topic for boys growing up in authoritarian and totalitarian regimes. Because there is just a very cultivated theme of heroism, and easily separated by commas, heroic death for what is declared ideologically correct by the bosses.�

    Stories about a tractor driver who burned down while saving a collective farm field from fire – vooot, that's it.

    That is, this stage is probably typical for the boyish period in general, but under authoritarian regimes it is maliciously exploited: soldiers, and more, MORE!..

    So for me, as a Soviet schoolboy, the paraphrase of this quote – I haven't read Salinger – but the idea that it's a sign of immaturity to want to die heroically, and a sign of maturity to live in a way that… – …was very sobering. Right about the important stuff.

  2. Heroes are not born, they become. His heroism is far from exaltation for a beautiful feat. It is about mastering every day for many years responsibly, without sticking out yourself, and doing a variety of rather difficult mental and physical work with pleasure and even joy. And regularly engage in mediocre flamingos. In terms of the ratio of time, a soldier has more than 95% of training and construction work, and less than 5% of the time is heroic clashes. Everywhere you need careful preparation, and then action.

    In extreme situations, a person's multi-faceted, including spiritual, willingness to work becomes crucial and leads to mature actions. It is accurate, reliable, and irreplaceable.And, if there is no other choice to defend the Motherland, it can take the fatal blow with honor and dignity.

    To acquire a set of qualities, it is advisable to start a business career with jobs in production processes and not be shy from military service in the armed forces. An educated person should understand simple work, have at least a small officer's knowledge and high civil responsibility, so that “they are not drawn to small office and street exploits.”

    Sincerely, Alexander.

  3. Too often the “noble” turned out to be later-stupid, ignoble, false.

    Vast experience teaches that the principle of “we wanted the best, but it turned out as bad as ever” too often dominates.

  4. Well, it's just a matter of statistics.

    Almost everyone who dies nobly for a just cause dies young. Immature. Like apples that fell before the deadline due to the caterpillar war.

    And many who work humbly for a just cause usually live to an advanced age.

    And usually only people of advanced years with a peaceful look in their eyes are called “mature”.

    Like apples with dark pits and not eaten by pests.

    But, by the way, many people who died in the war for a just cause are considered heroes and are valued no less than “mature” people.

  5. Well, I disagree with the word “humbly”, but in general, in normal armies, for example, fighters are taught – you must complete a combat task, return to the base, rest and be ready to perform a new one. The country has invested a lot of effort and money in you, not so that you stupidly gave up the ends in the first battle. Suicide bombers and kamikazes are not in our fighting tradition.

  6. A sign of maturity is to realize the meaning of your life and realize yourself in this regard, and thoughts about death are already the field of psychiatry, unless of course a person is sick with a deadly and incurable disease.

  7. so because it is easier to die in some sense-once you have gone down in History as a fighter and a Winner in an instant.., But to live for the sake of a righteous cause means to prove everyone right for a long time, to be tested, criticized, defend your positions, pay, sacrifice, give up something and so on..This is more difficult. Death is a kind of escape from Practice, and only practice is the Criterion of Truth (straight according to Marx))
    But Life for a just cause and as the culmination of Death for a Just cause-this is generally the height of perfection. After all, you can live for a just cause over time formally outwardly, observing only the rules of decency.

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