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  1. Perhaps this is the case when it is convenient to answer a question with a question. On what grounds do you believe that everything you see, hear, and touch, everything that is given to you in the senses, is not an illusion of your mind? For Buddhism, for example, the discovery of the cosmos has absolutely no meaning, because its truth lies in the path given by the Buddha, leading to the cessation of suffering. The truth of Christianity lies, in particular, in the words of Jesus about love for one's neighbor, mercy and compassion – all this was not accepted in the pagan world and the world changed under the influence of the sermons attributed to Jesus. Should this be abandoned because of the discovery of space? In my opinion, it's not worth it. Yes, in every ancient scripture there is a spirit of the times, typical for that era misconceptions about the structure of the world, but this is not the core of religion.

  2. Ohoho!!!

    I believe by” religions ” in the question was meant Christianity and Islam. We have already said that Buddhists did not react to the discovery of space.

    So let's talk about paganism?

    Paganism, with its mythological view of the world (before the appearance of scientific representation, it was mythological, that is, everything in the world was explained by mythology), knew quite well about the cosmos, and the pagans knew more than enough about the cosmos.

    A couple of simple examples:

    The eight main festivals of the year, which are found in many pagan beliefs (the Celts have this wheel of the year), are focused just on space, on astronomy. Four holidays – solstices and equinoxes, four more can also be calculated astronomically, or with the help of megaliths (the same Stonehage). The ancient Egyptians, Greeks, Scandinavians and Celts were quite aware of the cosmos, and Stonehage was built in general before the Celts, while placing it astronomically correctly according to the sun.

    If you dig analogies of myth in science, you can discover a lot of interesting things. For example, does everyone know the tale of the wolf and the seven little goats? On the days of the winter equinox with the Month, just the same plot is played out, eating goats. Again, in the mythological picture of the world, the moon is also periodically compared to a wolf, especially the northern peoples.

    So the pagans, in their own way, always sought to know the cosmos. Another thing is that they didn't have any telescopes. So, as a deeply religious pagan, I see absolutely nothing wrong with the discovery of the cosmos, galaxies, planets, and the law of thermodynamics…

    PS Modern pagans, if they seriously begin to approach the question of knowing the myth, often hit deep into astronomy.

  3. Religia is simply the connection of the lower with the Higher. Space, our ancient ancestors discovered long before the scientific knowledge of recent centuries. In general-nothing in our world is true – any knowledge and laws can be distorted. Prove that black is white. We live in an era of global substitutions of our perceptions. Simple proof. How many centuries has an ordinary Mayan Callendar turned? Until now, scientists still can not find the answer to many riddles of antiquity.. Including Stonehenge, one of the wonders of the world. So who knew the Cosmos better-us or our mysterious ancestors?)

  4. This is a purely materialistic thought, the philosophy of which knows no other person than a body with bones and internal diseases, to which this person reacts, using the brain, which, thanks to chemical reactions, produces thoughts.

    Further more, the ancients and not only the sages, knew much more about the cosmos and more deeply than modern scientific “geniuses”.

    Finally, religion is not a tool for conquering the cosmos. Religion is a means of moral development of mankind. The fact that a person, as always, spoils everything he touches in accordance with his sinful nature does not affect the religious teaching itself.

    You can learn to fly on a spaceship without much difficulty. But to acquire compassion is a task that is almost impossible to solve in one lifetime. And sometimes this task is the main one, since the degree of a person's moral level depends on its solution. And this level is directly related to the height of the technological horizon of humanity. The child will grow up and then you can give him matches – he will not go to the powder magazine.

  5. Cosmos-in Greek means Order, so initially religions were introduced to be able to describe and understand the Cosmos. The truth of religions is not in the mythical ideas about the structure of the physical universe, but in the awareness of the role and place of man. This is really what most people don't realize until now. Most people now think that religions are some kind of narrative that took the place of science before the advent of science. But in reality, they occupied a more important place – and now, when religions are in decline, science is partly trying to take their place, but it cannot, because it was created for a different purpose.

  6. The SCIENCES will never know everything about Space and everything connected with it. This fact does not undermine anything.

    Religions closely follow the development of the sciences and take into account all fundamental achievements.

  7. Religion is confirmed not by logic, but by a personal mystical experience that is felt directly. Even if the impossibility of the existence of the Sun will be very logically proved, sighted at a clear noon, no calculations in the non-existence of the shining star in the sky will not convince.

  8. And what to be aware of and what is connected with the cosmos?

    At the moment, space is dust around the green-blue planet Earth.

    This dust is “wound up”by the same laws of the universe that make up the Earth and life on Earth.

    We do not know and have no confirmation that somewhere in space there are more developed creations of these laws than on Earth.

    From the scale and size, absolutely nothing depends. We see huge stars as sparkling specks of dust in the night sky.

    And we know that stars are “cauldrons” of cooking chemical elements without which neither life nor self-awareness of a person is possible.

    Total: Space-flying stones+ our conjectures.

    Reality is our planet and we, intelligent beings who can see this cosmos and know it.

  9. people were PERSUADED to fly into space by religious fanatics from the Orthodox sect of “cosmists” .. try to learn more about religion and space exploration.

  10. Removing the solid dome (which was believed in) from the Earth and opening the vast cosmos behind it does NOT undermine the foundations of religion in any way. It simply takes in and explains the new realities in its own way. For example, at the regularly assembled “ecumenical councils” of various churches. God created heaven and earth (come on, science, refute). Ah, the sky is not a dome. Well, the Writing doesn't say anything about a solid dome. It was the interpreters of the past who messed up. Either it was a metaphor, or the translator and copyist made a mistake. Ok. God created the earth and the sky (Cosmos). It fits into the Scripture. Any other questions, opponents of religion? No. Well, go for a walk. Something like that.

  11. It seems to me that only limited people can truly believe in God. The question of believers is insincere, only pretending to be believers will not be considered, they, like all liars, do not deserve attention. Although I admit that in the general mass of those who declare themselves believers, the majority may turn out to be, including among the servants of the cult. I understand people who are ready to accept the idea of God in general, who talk about some higher intelligence, the creator of everything and everything, but to be a follower of a particular Christ, Buddha or Allah and claim that he is the only correct God is like spitting in the pots of your neighbors in a communal kitchen. And feeding fattening pastors is completely stupid.

    The trouble is that atheists are ready to discuss the universal logos, the structure and laws of the universe, and believers persist in trying to hide in their cramped cubicles and turn a blind eye to the fact that this is not even the age of enlightenment, but the age of computers and the Internet. It would seem, to whom from it it is bad? Let them continue to sit in their burrows like ground squirrels, if they like.

    It would seem… but the fact is that believers consider themselves the only carriers of morality. And here-sorry, move over! This is my territory, too. And not just mine. This is also the territory of ancient philosophers (all pagans), Enlightenment thinkers, raznochintsy and other nihilists, simply not indifferent to the suffering of others. Lying, double-dealing, and making fun of others is repugnant not only to believers, but also to just normal, moral people. However, believers have also found a loophole here: you can buy an indulgence, repent of your sins – and sin further, with a clean slate.

    So no matter how you look at it, it's not all thanks to God for them, the believers. God forgive me for the pun. Amen.

  12. And why should one interfere with the other? I believe that in the current situation, the role of religion has simply changed. Or maybe she's always been like this. When we talk about God today, we don't mean literally that there is a higher being – God. We recognize the materiality of the world, and we perceive religion as a combination of traditions on the one hand and some spiritual things on the other. Religion helps you find answers to questions about your place in the world, about your soul, about relationships, that is, it is something closer to philosophy and spirituality. And it has a right to this place in the modern world. I'm certainly not a specialist, not a scientist, but I think so.

  13. You can leave or even forget any doubts about the existence of God.

    By the end of the twentieth century, science already had enough information to prove the existence of God. But such a proof has not yet been formulated and accepted in the scientific community for the reason that there was no understanding of what God is like by the nature of his being.

    Over the next few years, such proof will be implemented. It's not difficult. Since, as it turned out, there is nothing impossible or inexplicable about the existence of God.

    The key framework for the upcoming trial is outlined here:

    You may also be interested in the following information in the context of your question::

    “Knowledge without mysticism. The soul as a human operating system.”


  14. And what about space discoveries (what does that even mean?) were they supposed to influence religion? From the point of view of faith in God , man has simply expanded the boundaries of God's observable creation. If the question implies that all believers are fools, then again you are mistaken. Einstein, for example, believed that the universe had a Creator. Einstein was probably a deist, not a Christian , but still. Or, for example, Steve Jobs, who became a Zen Buddhist. Is he a fool too? I'm not even talking about how believers have influenced the development of modern Europe…

  15. Alas, he doesn't realize it. The power of tradition is too great when religious “knowledge” is passed down from generation to generation. In addition, most people are reluctant to understand all the intricacies of science, it is easier to accept a ready-made, accessible and attractive picture of the world described in the” sacred ” texts. Besides, the reality is quite harsh and bleak – not everyone is happy to realize that they are just an advanced breed of monkeys, that their life is finite, that there will be no other, and that it does not make much sense and that it is not part of some beautiful higher design. As Mark Twain noted, ” It's easier to fool people than to explain to them that they've been fooled.”

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