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  1. I think that this is beautiful, interesting, gives food for concern and a lot of public discussions and artistic conflicts, will save someone, will give rise to a movement of “super-volunteers” (who will provide their bodies to dying geniuses) and is unlikely to happen in the near future.

  2. Without touching on the technical side of the question, and theorizing “Will I be in a new body or just my memories”, I want to note that death is an integral and necessary part of life. Running away from death is like running away from growing up and thinking of yourself as a small child until old age. Even if someone finds a way to record me for a new body, without an urgent need (that is, without a case when I clearly do not have time to do something in this life) I wouldn't use it. Beyond the threshold of death, after all, there is much more interesting than in this life, which in the end we will already try everything.

  3. I think, in the distant future, most likely yes, because science is developing, it may well be.

    The main condition is that the initial age of the body and the choice – the possibility of aging or staticism is determined by the owner of the same body

    Probably, I assume, a fabric will be created that either does not age, or ages beautifully, depending on the wishes of the owner of the body.

  4. I think it would be quite appropriate. If we are talking about an electronic new body, then, for example, we could fly to Alpha Centauri.

    But I hope this can be done only at the request of this person. Otherwise, there will be a wild confusion with passwords and intellectual property.

  5. Here some have written about achieving, thus, immortality.
    I will allow myself to add some skepticism.
    �Are you sure it's you who's waking up, and not someone with your memories?
    I don't think it's going to be you at all.
    Would you like someone else to have access to your memories, all of them, without exception? On the other hand, do you want to become the owner of someone else's memory, even if you are disappointed in your donor? How will someone else's memory affect the recipient's mental state?

    It seems to me that if the goal is to achieve immortality, then this path is at least controversial, if not a dead end at all.

  6. Everything goes by leaps and bounds to ensure that the individual's consciousness and memory are copied and transferred to a “new” body. Most likely, the body will be a biological robot vessel. Also, to begin with, the person will probably be transferred to a computer network and only then equipped with a body as a tool for interacting with the surrounding world.

  7. It seems to me that this will already be a new branch of evolution, a person will die out, giving way to a creature with new abilities, such as correcting their own data.

  8. This complex problem should be divided into several components. The first is actually creating an analog of the human brain, where you can transfer a person's consciousness, conditionally empty hard disk. In theory, it's only a matter of time. Sooner or later, technologies will develop to such an extent that it will be possible to create either a biological “dummy” by growing a clone from stem cells, or an electronic analog, where you can overwrite memories, knowledge, etc., everything that is stored in the human brain.

    The second problem is rather philosophical. What is a person? Descartes also proposed the dualism of human nature, i.e. the body and consciousness are heterogeneous substances, each functioning according to its own laws – material and spiritual. However, with the development of neuroscience, at one time, purely materialistic views dominated, i.e., it was believed that a person is a set of activities of completely material objects – the human brain. However, recently there have been scientists who deny a purely material approach to the problem. Philosophy of consciousness is an interesting topic, the main one in modern philosophy. By answering this question, you can understand whether it is possible to transfer a person to an artificial carrier. Imagine that you were connected to a computer, copied the contents of your brain, and transferred by the copy-paste method, for example, to an artificially grown avatar body. Try to answer the question of what happens next. Whose eyes will you use to see the outside world – your own or your avatar's? Or maybe at the time of transfer you “old” will die and wake up in a new body? Or maybe your consciousness will split like a conjoined twin and you will be able to be in both bodies at the same time.

    So far, there are more questions than answers.

  9. This is a very difficult question. Our thoughts are part of the brain's complex neural architecture. In order to provide a similar process of thinking within the new biological body, you will need an identical structure of the donor's brain, down to individual neurons. Otherwise, the transfer of memory IMHO will be equivalent to installing macOS on processors from Intel (in this metaphor, I can err because-not an expert). If the memory recipient is an artificial storage facility with a processor of sufficient computing power to replace the brain and an operating system capable of simulating the real human thinking process with all its disadvantages and advantages, then perhaps this is possible, although there is little practical benefit. This technology can be used to compensate for the loss of deceased relatives(here you should think about the ethical side of the issue) however, it makes no sense to keep the minds of great scientists at this level of technology development, since they can be more successfully replaced by artificial intelligence with access to all known digitized information.�

    As my predecessors unsubscribed, the subjective immortality of the original consciousness is still not achieved. After all, the copying process does not involve the original media losing the copied data. Thus, using this technique, we can theoretically achieve the emergence of two subjects with the same life experience and memory, which, however, will be aware of themselves separately from each other – as different consciousnesses, and, in the future, will develop differently. That is, having a copy does not free you from life or death, after which your double may continue to live with your memory, but you will no longer care. Although if you want to leave a mark on the ground after your biological death, this is a better option than a monument.

  10. I think I would love to take advantage of this opportunity. Although I don't fully believe in it. The question is where to get the body and where to get its “stuffing”. That is, I will live in the person in whom the identity was killed?�

    There is also a point that a huge number of our personal characteristics are associated with the body (if not all). For example, the required level of adrenaline (and, therefore, the position on the quiet / extreme scale) is determined genetically and is associated with the sensitivity of receptors. The level of stress tolerance / emotionality is directly related to hormones. Intelligence is linked to the brain. What can we say about the fact that we are affected by gender, age, health, size, weight, metabolic rate, and so on, and so on, and so on!

    That is, moving from one body to another, my personality will inevitably change, adapt to the new body. Memory, by the way, is also connected with the body. What my body once did and felt becomes a memory not only in my head, but also in my muscles, even in my bones. So I lie down on my left side, my head on my hand, and look at the monitor. I move the mouse with my right hand. my body remembers how to do this, and what's more, the frequent repetition of this action has changed my body. The side of the body was stretched, the spine slightly twisted. If I lie on my left side, I will feel that something is wrong. Even though I remember lying on my side, it's not the right side. It is not stretched in the same way. Its shape is somewhat different. It does not fit properly, it turns out uncomfortable and unpleasant. But if I get a new body, then trying to lie down on either side will feel wrong. Trying to walk, and that will lead to a lot of unexpected sensations. Walking is so automated by adulthood that we don't even remember how difficult it was with those unruly legs. And we don't know how different other people's feet are from our own, or how they feel or feel, or what they can do. And so it is in everything.

    What will happen after the conflict of memory and body? I think we will be able to integrate some of the memory and use it in new conditions. For example, learning to speak and walk will take less time than when you were a child. Some of the memory will go away. It will be forgotten. There are no clues to pull out a memory, no memories. At least the muscle memories of the new body should be added.�

    There may be such a strong discrepancy that it will be unbearable to be in a new body.

  11. the human body is mortal. but there is a theory that the human brain can live much longer. and there are already real initiatives to develop special vacuums for brain maintenance. why? – yes, just think – you can use the experiences of past years, advice from the most experienced minds, etc.�
    if this is true and the brain can live much longer than the body, and work on pills for immortality (which can extend our life by 200-300 years) it's already started. now it is quite easy to implant organs. but not only that – almost all organs can be grown! we are still very limited in our material – there is not enough space for everyone. but less than a century ago, the computer was a huge machine, very expensive and inaccessible to the masses. long live progress – now we can put it in our pocket.
    so a significant lengthening of life – I think, quite close and very real future.
    there is also such a thing (my dream) – a cyborg man. science now easily replaces body parts – arms, legs, organs that function perfectly normally. so why not replace ALL the body parts except the brain (by the way, such parts can easily be changed!)

    forward to a modernized future, where there is no place for diseases, wars and work!)))

  12. Like Sheldon Cooper said, I think: “There's a problem with teleportation.” In short, the point is that when we transfer consciousness from one medium to another, we don't have an accurate understanding of what happens to the original personality. Is she dying?�

    In fact, we are talking about a subspecies of cloning, only in digital form. Accordingly, whether you need a digital clone of yourself or not is another matter. But to gain immortality in this way, your original ” I ” will not work because of the binding of consciousness to the biological material of your body.

    But in general, of course, it is wildly interesting. So far, we don't know much about what consciousness is, where it comes from, or how to recreate it. When we understand it, then we will be able to carry out the transfer.

  13. Well, about the “near future” you probably were in a hurry :- )- let's first learn how to preserve memory and the structure of consciousness. This will at least allow you to start “beta testing” such a” back-up ” consciousness. First, to find out whether the copy is a working algorithm or just a set of zeros and ones. Secondly, in order to clarify whether such a copy is a person or just a program-data + processing algorithm. And third, in order to avoid various surprises like the desire to kill everyone or take over the whole world: -)

  14. Unfortunately, I don't remember who exactly has it, but one of the classics of American science fiction has a short story about how a new type of tourism became possible – you are moved into the body of an intelligent being from another planet, while preserving your consciousness, memory and perception. It seems to me that in addition to new opportunities in medicine ( healing the terminally ill, technical immortality), science ( the ability to conduct death tests on a person, first duplicating his consciousness and making a copy of the body) and theology ( reconsidering the question of the presence of the soul and the place of the creator in the human world), theft of bodies or memory and consciousness from people will be very widespread, especially after the appearance of relatively cheap/artisanal methods of consciousness and memory transportation. Imagine that in the body of the president of a country, terrorists instill the consciousness of their leader, and the consciousness of the president is instilled in the body of a man chained to a post. Or they steal the consciousness of a famous pianist and demand a ransom – a kind of soulnapping. Again, if you consider a person no more than an animal, then for the joy of soulless rich people or to raise the rating of certain media spaces, it is possible to move consciousnesses into the bodies of animals and vice versa.

  15. Just working on a game project strongly tied to this topic. This opportunity will certainly be in the future, let's look at a few interesting points:

    1. Let's say you have a dangerous profession, for example, you are a soldier. You can create a copy of your own, as if to save it before you go to the next task. Who would be poisoned for the task, and who remained in suspended animation (for example, this is how doppelgangers are stored)? Would you be able to trust your copy that it will risk itself for your goals, and that it will then return to you, rather than take your place in society? And if you go on a mission and die there, will it be any consolation for you that a copy will take your place?

    2. Imagine you can create your own copy and it will be a full-fledged member of the society, just like you. What guidelines would you give yourself before copying and how would you agree to share housing, friends, and loved ones? And if there was no way (they say I gave him life, let him make his own friends, etc.), are you sure that you would somehow be satisfied with this?

    3. Suppose you have created your own copy and are already successfully co-existing with it. If she commits a crime, and no abnormalities in her psyche are detected, should you be held responsible for this?

    4. If you are a valuable employee and some company offers to create a copy of you to work for them. The copy will be provided with everything necessary for a high-quality life, and you will also receive dividends. Would you agree?

    But in general, I think this technology is inevitable. Because biological immortality, even in very safe conditions, will not last more than a few hundred years, people will die from accidents, etc. So, people will most likely have their own test-tube duplicates, which they will regularly add to the memory acquired since their creation, in order to maintain the relevance of their personality relative to their own. Most likely, there will be problems with data transfer for a long time, because it is likely that in order to read them, a person will need to be” turned off ” for a while in order to stop brain activity, otherwise it is dangerous and the probability of errors increases greatly. By the way, from the point of view of biology, it will be possible to completely stop activity in a living brain without killing it only if it is frozen, but it is not a fact that in this state it will be possible to count something.�

    Most likely, there will also be a recording during brain activity (for example, a chip), but it will be considered less high-quality, and it is unlikely that it will contain the entire personality map, only memory, and possibly only sensory (visual, etc.).

    Well, with questions of morality, people will quickly get used to it and develop some kind of generally accepted attitude to it, because the process itself can be said to be inevitable. Even if people become robots or move completely to the digital world, the problem of self-preservation will remain relevant. Everything breaks down sooner or later — and we can't say exactly when it will happen, if the world remains at least as diverse as it is now.

  16. If you try to transfer a person into an artificially created body, you will get a certain thing – some information will be transferred, namely, the memory of the first person. That is, information about past interactions with the external environment, past actions, past thoughts, feelings, and emotions. The personality itself is not the past. A person is an actor. Decision-making, action-producing consciousness (soul, if you will). In other words, the question is: is it possible to transfer information about a person to another body and transfer the person himself, living and acting, to a new body? The question of the soul.

    There are two options, as usual. You can or can't.

    My argument is that if this is possible (and I am convinced it is), then it has been around for a long time. It exists as a natural continuation of life after the death of the body. Why is that? Because immortality or vice versa, the mortality of both humans and other living beings is a fundamental condition of the universe. A condition of the system we are a part of. Fundamental conditions cannot occur over a certain period of time. They are system conditions set from the beginning of time.

    My answer is unequivocal – if we are talking about the possibility of rewriting the personality to another medium (body), then this is possible exclusively and only in a natural way – after what we now call death. This means that all attempts to do this by people are doomed to failure. If immortality is already a condition of our existence, then a duplicate function is excluded, since it prevents this fundamental condition as it is. In other words, you must first die, and then be reborn.

    If we simply talk about recording information from the first person to the second person (alive and well), then I don't see any technical obstacles to this. Another thing is that if it is very significant amounts of information, in the years and years of life, then there is an ethical problem regarding the transformation of the individual.

  17. What an interesting question!

    It would be a good prospect, I think 🙂 After all, we are not bodies endowed with a soul – we are souls enclosed in a body. And the body is mortal, short-lived, and generally fragile. If a person gets sick with something fatal or suddenly becomes disabled-once! and just changed the” place of residence ” of the soul. That way, there would probably be fewer unhappy people) But to prevent humans from overflowing their population, a restriction is necessary – the body can be changed, for example, once in a lifetime or as much as you want, but the life is no more than 100 years. In general, there are many subtleties)

    If it is possible to overwrite, then, perhaps, probably, it will be possible to edit. That is, erase unpleasant memories, psychological trauma, or even any diseases – schizophrenia, etc…

    But on the other hand, there is a danger of “settling” false memories. What if the state or individuals want a person to think that some beliefs or ideas were originally in their head? A dangerous and twofold situation.

    In general, as such, the idea seems to me quite good, but any opportunity is a tool that in different hands can be both good and universal evil.

  18. I think / hope that at the resurrection of the flesh after the Day of Judgment, this is exactly what will happen – my (our) memory will be preserved; it will probably be reformatted in some way. The Scripture doesn't say anything directly about this, nor does it follow that all resurrected people will be zombies – then resurrection is meaningless. The scriptures give us a clue: Jesus rose from the dead and lived with the apostles and other disciples for a while before he ascended. During all this time, It was the same as before the execution – externally and in content. Moreover, He did several important things, including building the Church and converting Saul.

  19. Some problems about “coming soon”:

    • The brain's memory also contains information about the previous carrier, or rather it is adapted to it (for example, vision, hearing). It turns out that you will still need to install firewood or compatibility mode.

    • What if there are errors in the memory transaction? It will be interrupted or formatting will fail… There are always errors and broken sectors during compression. We haven't even been able to protect our computers from this, let alone our brains.�

    • What if someone wants to create their own copies? The plot of a classic horror movie with cloning.

  20. I don't think it will be available any time soon. Well, if such availability appears, it will be very expensive and there will be an illegal market for trading bodies. Clandestine cloning may begin to develop. All this has been repeatedly described by science fiction writers.

  21. I think that this is part of the eternal struggle of man with death, the desire to win it. The body dies, but we can continue to exist in another body. I'm not a man of science, but it will probably be possible soon. The mistake of scientists is that they treat a person like a computer, and this is not the same thing at all. We are more complex than a computer, more contradictory, we are not just keepers of some information, memory and perception are not all components of a person. How it will look (if you transfer information from one body to another) is presented in many science fiction films. In my opinion, it will only be a pathetic parody of the original, or it will develop something into a completely different personality.

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